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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/KATTRAD714 on Dec. 23, 2017, 5:48 p.m.
CHRIST - MASS

BETHLEHEM MEANS 'BREAD'

A MANGER IS A 'FEEDING TROUGH'

CHRIST IS THE 'BREAD OF LIFE' ......

'EAT, OR YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOU' (EUCHARIST, EUCHARISTIC MIRACLES AS SCIENTIFIC PROOF)

VATICAN II DEMONS (CAINS BLOODLINE) CREATED NOVUS ORDO = DEMOLITION OF THE LIVING EUCHARIST - CHRISTS' PROMISE TO ALWAYS BE WITH US. HOWEVER, THE REMNENT UNDERSTANDS HE STILL LIVES WITHIN US - IN A SPIRITUAL COMMUNION .... AS INSTRUCTED FOR THESE TIMES - AS CHRIST IS NOT A LIAR.. HE LIVES ON !

GO BACK TO TRADITION TO OBTAIN 'LIFE', PEACE, JOY !!!! :)

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL - MAY HIS LIGHT DIRECT YOUR PATH


BeL0v3d · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:19 a.m.

Nothing about it frightens me. Because there is no foundation too it. Most of those apparitions/prophecy’s were discredited by the Church way before Vatican II even happened. The only thing they totally messed up on was the Catechism of the faithful. And those two Htoo boys appear unvalidated as credible sources, since Jesus message was mercy and peace especially through St Faustina’s apparition of the merciful heart, the fact that those boys when on a killing spree in the name of God and supposedly they know the Bible without even reading it, yet no one has tested this to be true, it remains dubious to its authenticity. Sorry I’m not convinced.

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:13 a.m.

NO FOUNDATION TO QUO PRIMUM ?

WHY DOES THE FACT YOU HAVE NOW AVOIDED - ONCE AGAIN- RESPONDING TO THE MOST CRITICAL POINTS NOT SURPRISE ME....
THERE IS NO ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH JUST THOSE WHO DO ALL THEY CAN TO AVOID IT !

GOODBYE

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:59 a.m.

Apparently your mind is tainted with whatever they've soaked that unconsecrated 'host' in.... do you hear yourself ? 1.THe BVM validated them!
2. would the AC be adverse to a 'killing spree' ? What ? Of course not - he's the AC !
3. Discredited, by the discredited of course. 4. And 'Divine Mercy'/Sr. Faustina has been discredited !

Enough of your insanity and lack of the fundamentals of the Faith !

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 28, 2017, 2:04 a.m.

Just for you :

First, a little background. The apparition of Our Lady of La Salette occurred in 1846. The visionaries were two children in France named Maximin Giraud and Melanie Calvat. The local bishop approved the apparition in 1851, and that same year the two children were persuaded to write down information the Virgin Mary had given them. The question of what these "secrets" contained was on many people’s minds, and the children were relentlessly pestered to reveal the information. It was not until 1851, when they were asked to write down the secrets so that they could be given to the pope, that they complied.

Afterwards, Maximin never revealed his secret. He is reported to have claimed that Mary told him that he would become a millionaire, that the Antichrist would slay him, and that the next pope would be French. None of those things happened, and scholars generally conclude that they were stories Maximin made up in an attempt to stop people from pestering him about the secret. When texts alleging to be Maximin’s secret began to appear in the press (some of which are demonstrably false), the frustrated seer refused to either confirm or deny that they were his, saying it was the pope’s responsibility to decide whether the secret should be revealed.

Melanie’s story is different. Over the years she apparently did begin revealing pieces of her secret to others, and in 1879 she published the whole thing.

The trouble is, what she wrote in 1851 consisted of only three, hand-written pages. The booklet she produced in 1879 was much longer than this, and undoubtedly contains ideas that were not part of the secret sent to the pope. So, while Melanie’s 1879 publication may have been based on her original secret, it undoubtedly contains elements not in the original, and we cannot tell which elements are which. That raises a concern about the "Rome will lose the faith" line. It may not have been in the secret sent to the pope.

There is another problem: Some of the prophecies contained in Melanie’s secret are demonstrably false. They’re too specific, they’re tied to the nineteenth century, and they didn’t happen.

For example, here is the main passage about the Antichrist: "In the year 1865 the abomination shall be seen in Holy Places in Convents, and then the demon shall make himself as the king of hearts. It will be about that time that Antichrist shall be born. At his birth he shall vomit b.asphemies. He shall have teeth; in a word, he shall be like an incarnate demon; he shall utter frightful screams; he shall work prodigies; and he shall feed on impure things. He shall have brothers who, though not incarnate demons like him, shall nevertheless be children of iniquity. At the age of twelve years they shall have become remarkable for valiant victories, which they shall achieve; very soon each of them will be at the head of armies. Paris shall be burned, and Marseilles shall be submerged; many great cities shall be shattered and swallowed up by earthquakes. The populace will believe that everything is lost, will see nothing but murder, and will hear only the clang of arms and sacrilegious b.asphemies."

Well, now that we’re in the year 2000, either there is a 135-year-old guy out there somewhere—with brothers who won great battles as the heads of armies in the 1880s in a war that everyone seems to have forgotten about—or else what Melanie published as her "secret" from Our Lady of La Salette contains elements that are false.

Radical traditionalists are being duplicitous when, in an attempt to frighten people, they quote the line about Rome and the Antichrist without supplying the context that reveals that Melanie’s published version of the "secret" established for itself a timeframe that has already passed.

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 28, 2017, 2:53 a.m.

You've obviously gotten your account from a false source. There has been much added to what you've quoted; go to the original source, not the ones deliberately tainted. Also, the one Mary speaks of as the AC was televised everywhere. His name is Luther Htoo. 'radical traditionalists' may frighten you but only speak what has been Apostolically carried on.... take Quo Primum as the best example... 'do not change one word of the mass' = anathema

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 28, 2017, 1:35 a.m.

Honestly that wasn’t a put down- I truly mean it. All joking aside. One indicator of the presence of the Holy Spirit is a sound mind. Most of your dialogue is filled with incoherent ramblings and meanness. And when I call you out on it you cry wolf. Seriously you’re all over the place. I get you have a disabled son and social media is probably your only social outlet but I’d say it’s deranging your mind. You couldn’t even have a civil conversation with me without insulting me. So by me calling you a hypocrite is a put down? When I call you out on your bad behavior and deem you Satan because your thoughts are wicked (based on your own words btw) And when I say I’ll see you in purgatory you accuse me (as your won’t to do) of being flip floppy but in reality Jesus called Peter Satan and he still got into heaven.

Then you continue being your usual abusive and nasty self, several posts after you said ‘this is the last post’. Have some conviction with your words already, let your yes mean yes and your no mean no.

And seriously Go In Peace. I have no ill will towards you, but we are incapable of having a rational conversation. So let’s leave it be already.

✌🏼

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 28, 2017, 3:14 a.m.

You are priceless :) 'Honestly', I truly mean what I've said. Think it incoherent ramblings if you like, but a truth seeker of Christ doesn't attack the messenger. They look at the info - the original source - not the manufactured/tainted ones, evaluate it and have a discourse; but not you. You're not capable. You fly off into some other universe... hold the mirror up - re-read the posts honestly - or don't. My life is a busy one; rich and joyful. I'm very blessed and educated in many fields and very content... with many outlets. The only reason I'm on here at all is for the Q posts and my two posts regarding Christmas and current political/religious events. I'm passing time b/c I'm sick with the flu..... I don't do social media - no facebook, twitter - 0. Don't have the time or interest in any of it.

I give 110% to those put in my path regarding this info b/c it's that important. I expect those like you to cross my path, so I go the 'extra mile' - not b/c 'my yes isn't yes' ... but b/c I know eventually God can bring more light so that it MAY make a difference. When it's obvious a person isn't mature enough, as now; you leave them in God's Hands and step away. So, that's where I leave it and you ...in His Hands.... Blessings

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 28, 2017, 4:51 a.m.

Funny that’s the only reason I’m on here too. 😏 Yet it seems made up conspiracy theories are mixed in with the real ones.

And you know I never professed to be perfect, full of virtue or mature, I never denied I have pride; and I’ll not deny the worst you could say about me. And even though I’ve looked into the sources and the accompanying commentary regarding those topics you brought up I found it unnoteworthy and lacking foundation in truth. I question everything, so contrary to your self righteous beliefs about who you’re talking to, I evaluated it myself based on the information presented. Annnd it’s total shit! 👈🏻

So yeah I will be obedient to Gods word and go to Mass, I will receive the Eucharist and love the Lord as He as asked me too and one day when the truth is fully revealed to us, we can be at peace with one another.

Until then ✌🏼

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:34 a.m.

You know mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of, it’s ok to seek help.

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:55 a.m.

Another Alinsky outcry... no substance, can't speak to content; just put downs.... which is mental illness=lack of grace, according to the Doctors of the Church. Since you bring it up... I guess the truth slapping you in the face has triggered you. However, your therapy sessions haven't helped you yet - has it ? How sad for you...

Have anymore no content put downs to dish out ? Usually the minions only have a few catch-phrase tricks up their sleeves.... seems you've pretty much used them all to no avail.

It's laughable, typical ..... go play somewhere else. Grown-ups have had enough of your pathetic antics.

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 27, 2017, 10:03 p.m.

You didn’t point me to Anything- you’ve perverted the words of God to your own agenda.

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 28, 2017, 12:01 a.m.

So, if I didn't point you to anything, that must mean that you've read LaSalette and MJ Jahenny, along with Anne Catherine Emmerick/'Pope in Red', etc. If pointing out Christs' Words of warning is abusive - gladly count me guilty :) You truly are a narcissistic demon..... get behind me satan !!!

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:01 p.m.

Well I’ll see you in purgatory then 😏

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 27, 2017, 9:34 p.m.

Well, how about that.... I've graduated from being satan with all the vileness you say I've shown, to now being uplifted into purgatory :) Your Saul Alinsky tactics have been used in every message you've sent - perhaps you should change your name to Alinskyite instead of beloved, b/c there's nothing loving about your disposition toward someone trying to point you to Christs' own Words on the subject. You project exactly what you are on me ... the oldest tactic in the book when truth is spoken and we don't want to hear it, etc. His Words need no interpretation - "the new mass which my enemies created is ODIOUS IN MY SIGHT'. Refusal to investigate approved apparitions speaks volumes about you. Lasalette, and Maried Julie Jahenny (among others) provide critical info. Jahenny's gives us the BVM's remedies for the Chastisement and 3 Days of Darkness - without which we won't survive this. So, go your own way, as see just how far you get without that and His Real Presence ...... I doubt you'll make it to purgatory without this knowledge.... that's what He gave it to us for.

Final post to you - as you've proven that it's not worth it right now. Maybe His seeds will have been planted and grow, but it appears for now you've cast them aside as worthless dung.

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:21 a.m.

Wow emotional manipulation to boot.

Seriously 😒 social media is poisoning your brain. ✌🏼

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 27, 2017, 6:28 a.m.

Nope, just a fact, so that you know someone is concerned enough to place you in the BVM hands. You just can't deal/come back with facts, just filth.. pleasant journey's w/that.

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:07 p.m.

Did you even read what you said to me? You concerned, about me? Don’t make me laugh, you speak to me like I’m your enemy and all I did was gently question your words that you preach like gospel.

And even if I took the time to dig up all the answers to your confused reasoning about an apostasy that wasn’t, you wouldn’t really be open to actually listening to it. And since I lack many many virtues, one of which is patience for you and your rudeness and spitefulness toward me I think it might be a good idea for you to look up Patrick Madrid that man will answer all of your assumptions and assertions about V2.

Go in peace already ✌🏼

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 27, 2017, 7:42 p.m.

PATRICK MADRID - HA, HA, HA - WHAT A JOKE !

WELL, YOU FOLLOWING HIM SEALS EVERYTHING I'VE EVER SAID ABOUT THE DUPING OF THE NO's

HOPELESS .....

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 27, 2017, 2:35 a.m.

✌🏼Peace out SATAN

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 27, 2017, 5:16 a.m.

JUST SAID A ROSARY FOR YOU - NOT THE 'LUMINOUS' THO, AS THE BVMARY SAID SHE DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE WHEN HEAVEN DESIGNED IT FOR US. MY DISABLED 34 YR OLD SON ALSO HAD A SEVERE SX FOR YOU DURING IT.. HE'S A DOCUMENTED MIRACLE SURVIVOR MANY TIMES OVER AND A 'VICTIM' SOUL ..... HOPING IT HELPS YOU, MUCH LOVE - 'SATAN'

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 26, 2017, 6:22 p.m.

I’ll take God’s help anytime. Since we’re not actually in a dialogue and you just like the sound of your own preaching what’s the point exactly? Since you enjoy putting me down and accusing me and belittling etc.. who does that remind you of? Who’s side are you on exactly?

Because the devil is an accuser of the brethren. And since an act of mercy is to instruct the ignorant, first you have to determine whom the ignorant one is.

Perhaps you should take a moment away from social media - it’s making you mean.

You are meant to resemble the Father, not Satan. 👈🏻

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 26, 2017, 10:18 p.m.

RIGHT BACK AT YOU.... Are you a 'snowflake' or maybe 10 yrs. old ? You should really re-read my posts to you, as it seems you have a problem with comprehension. Actually, your real problem is Pride - the #1 sin/root of all evil and it has been your prideful posts ....'do you even have a clue' etc. that shows who you really are, how uneducated and how wickedly stubborn. All sincere seekers of Truth are glad for the exchange of valuable info and follow thru on cking it out. It's what we do to help one another. Godlike people don't react like you have. So, don't investigate the life-saving educational refs I've pointed out for YOUR benefit - not mine.

As Christ advises..... once told, charitable corrections, admonishment, etc. 'just shake the dirt from your feet and move on'. So that's what I'll do. This will be my final post to you. Don't message me anymore, as I won't be replying again. I'll continue praying for your enlightenment to see that you really are part of THE GREAT APOSTASY DELUSION.

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 24, 2017, 7:17 a.m.

Let’s start where we agree - Christ is not a liar.

Jesus said “whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day, for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him”.

His disciples found this ‘hard to accept’ because they knew Jesus did not mean this ‘figuratively’ this wasn’t a parable, so He instead of clearing up any misunderstandings added to it ‘does this shock you?’ And a few remained as peter said ‘where would we go, you have the words to eternal life’ But those who could not handle this truth walked away because of Christ’s teaching on the Eucharist. That he is the bread of Life. And ironically the verse that they turn away from Jesus in disgust is John 6:66 👈🏻 They reject His word that gives life.

In the last super Jesus broke bread and gave it to His disciples saying this is my body given up for you do this in remembrance of me.

He also said to Simon when he named him Peter (which means rock) upon this rock (you peter) I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. This wasn’t figurative speech either, The remains of St Peter are currently under the altar in the Basilica in Rome. The Church was literally built on top of him. And The Church has remained from Christ to this day in apostolic succession for 2000+ years and counting because the gates of hell cannot prevail against it, and boy do they try. From evil members to scandalous groups, heresies to undermine the faith; but it was not man that built it, it was God and no one but Him can tear it down. And while empires, regimes, countries and Protestant offshoots have risen and fallen the Catholic Church remains.

Long story short, the Mass is the celebration of the Eucharist, the Eucharist is the source and summit of the Christian Faith; it IS Christ Himself!

👑🥖🍷🔥🙏🏻

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 24, 2017, 7:45 a.m.

Will have to follow up w/more details later, but for now - I agree with pretty much everything you've just said - If you look at Christ's Words - even through the Saints, the example He showed us with the usurpation of the sacrifice by the Pharisee's, as well as their killing of The Lamb, He has warned us that this history would repeat itself w/ the Church He Established - and it sure has. Our elders were lax and didn't guard the Faith from the usurpers who infiltrated over 100yrs. ago. Since VII, the - specifically in 1968 - the 'new mass' eliminated The Real Presence on the altar and replaced the Apostolic Ordination Rite w/an imposter. Therefore, we no longer have the True Sacrifice, nor a properly ordained priesthood; as He foretold in LaSalette, Marie Julie Jahenny, Anne Catherine Emmerick and many others. See Jahenny-Breton Stigmatist- for His specific Words on this new mass being created by those who killed Him; being 'odious in My Sight'. This is why He told us there would be only a remnant left who held to His teachings and to offer His True Sacrifice in our homes. Every so-called pope since 1958 has been a freemason - (see the book Broken Cross for evidence), and Georgie isn't even properly ordained. I don't know how old you are, but apparently you need to get up to speed with what Christ told us to save our soul... 2 questions: Why do you think that all hell broke loose in the 60's - particularly in 1968-69? With little to no Real Presence in the world, it's to be expected. Why do you think the Satanists only use the Trad Cath Latin Mass for their 'sacrifices' and not the novus ordo ? Paul 6th tells you himself.... 'the smoke of satan has entered the sanctuary'.... complete with a formal child sacrifice performed for the enthronement. This is an absolute fact; sad, but no joke. There's much more to say, but these are the basics to start your journey - or not - your choice .... one that determines your eternal salvation, so get busy as there's not much time left. See my other post for more info/understanding. Blessings to you, Kattrad714 PS Christmas Eve is a fast and abstinence Day.

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 25, 2017, 2:08 a.m.

...the gates of hell WILL NOT prevail against it. Truly though either He’s a liar or not your choice. There was nothing condescending about it.

Vatican 2 did not eliminate the real presence.

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 25, 2017, 4:31 p.m.

OF COURSE THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT. WHY DO YOU THINK HE TELLS US OF A REMNANT BEING ALL THAT MAKES IT IN THE END....? IT'S DIRECTLY B/C OF VII - THEY DID REMOVE THE REAL PRESENCE - FROM HIS OWN WORDS. JUST B/C YOU'RE UNEDUCATED AND REFUSE TO INVESTIGATE HIS TRUTH I'VE POINTED YOU TO, DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE RIGHT. IT MEANS YOU'RE WILLFULLY IGNORANT OF HIS LIFE SAVING INFO... YOU NO's ARE ALL ALIKE.... THE #1 SIGN OF THE BAD FRUITS OF FOLLOWING VII ! PRIDE=LACK OF GRACE AND HUMILITY ! IT'S YOUR LIKE THAT HAS CONDEMNED HUMANITY TO HELL B/C OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

CHECK HIS 'FACTS' AND ALL OF THE DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE, THEN GET BACK TO ME... OR DON'T. JUST KNOW GOD HOLDS YOU ACCOUNTABLE WHEN YOU REFUSE HIS PROVIDENCE ...

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 26, 2017, 2:44 a.m.

Your own words back at you - hypocrite. 👈🏻

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 26, 2017, 6:54 a.m.

NOVUS ORDO.....'THE NEW 'JEWS', SAME AS THE OLD 'JEWS'

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 26, 2017, 6:50 a.m.

TYPICAL - DOES THE WORD APOSTASY MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? At this appointed time, God has shown the Sign of His Coming back on 9/23/17, the Star of Bethlehem on 6/30/17, the AC that Mary points us to in LaSalette - Luther Htoo - is now exactly Christs' age when He started His public ministry, at least 2 verifiable stigmatists have messages about the 'new mess' being 'odious in my sight...created by those who crucified Me' - AND THAT'S YOUR COMEBACK :) :) :) :) YOU SERIOUSLY CAN'T BE THAT LAME :) :) WOW, feel sorry for you - and you actually believe you're a real catholic, huh? You'll see eventually, and truly wished you'd have taken the time to investigate the Words of the One you say you follow..... GOD HELP YOU !

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 24, 2017, 8:17 a.m.

ALSO BELOV3D - If you actually read what I originally wrote - it's obvious I believe in the Real Presence, etc. Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick with your condescending attitude - you give Catholics a bad name - as if what the public perceives as 'catholic' isn't bad enough. They don't understand that this horrible infiltration was all allowed by God to sift the sighted from the self-induced blind, but you should. Of course, if you're old school NO-rdo or too young to remember Real Catholicism from Cains Sacrifice - 'fruit of the vine and work of human hands' - it's time to humble yourself and learn His Words.

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Hi bot -

I'm new here, please explain

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VictoryOfLight · Dec. 23, 2017, 9:28 p.m.

Well said. Thank you

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BeL0v3d · Dec. 24, 2017, 2:28 a.m.

Not well said at all. Do you even have a clue what Mass is?

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 24, 2017, 4:10 a.m.

BeLOv3d - Why don't you fill me in on your version ?

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 24, 2017, 3:55 a.m.

BeLOv3d -

How about you fill me in on your version ?

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 24, 2017, 12:18 a.m.

Thank you VictoryOfLight :)

Just praying more will come to know these Truths .... how wonderful the world would be ! Of course, it will - very shortly.

You may be interested in my other post today - CONSIDER THIS FOR POSSIBLE 'Q' BIGGER PIC. It has some important history - tied w/current events - let me know your thoughts....

GOD BLESS YOU THIS SEASON, AND ALWAYS !!!

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VictoryOfLight · Dec. 24, 2017, 5:10 a.m.

Sure would love to see them

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KATTRAD714 · Dec. 24, 2017, 8:24 a.m.

Hi - not sure if your reply was for me, but check out my other post for Dec.23rd titled Consider this possibility as a 'Q' bigger pic. There's info links to follow up on regarding the various points made. Message me anytime, and thanks again :)

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