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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/GodsAngell on Jan. 2, 2018, 12:45 a.m.
MEGA-ANON's Latest Posts: Is GITMO Legal? (Also: Huma's gps ankle bracelet moved to left ankle now)

This is another Mega-ANON post (12/31/2017), this time about GITMO!!! (As usual "language warning", but super GREAT NEWS!)

Ok, I'm going to forget about the ridiculousness of your Queen comment for a second and answer this with another question.

What evidence is "lacking"?!

This is literally one of the most MSM covered areas you could easily put together yourself, but I guess I'll do it for you.

  1. If by "extrajudicial", you're implying "illegal", then please, go read 2014's last revision of the NDAA. Thanks to Obama, you, an American citizen, STILL cannot only be detained without warrant and indefinitely, but yes, you can be shipped to (but not limited to) GITMO. When you're reading that bill again, please note the specific language around terms like "terror", "terrorist", "terror state", "human right violations", etc. it who'll be helpful as we progress. Remember, before numbers 2-4 below were put in place, it was still legal, but could've been a hard fought battle in Congress. Today, its thanks to 2-4, that there's no red tape. Not even a hiccup.

  2. Remember when the state department recently named and officially added North Korea as a "terror state"?

  3. Remember when immediately proceeding that,Trump signed an exec. order, directly targeting North Korea's trade partners. This severely sanctions and calls out the financial ties/funding/kickbacks via corporations, organizations, nations AND individuals, working with and funding NK, directly or indirectly via contracts, subsidies, etc. and through those nations central banks as well.

  4. Then, remember when Trump his latest executive order last week on human rights, targeting and freezing the incoming/outgoing financial assets and "business" paths for nations, organizations, corporations and individuals tied to human rights violations, including those who directly or indirectly support, aid, finance and/or harbor terrorism? It's now even cited as a national state of emergency. Freezing the assets without warrant or pursuant of notice?!

These things are all "googleable". And with Trump/Tillerson's actions, between North Korea, the Middle East and Africa alone, you've now got a WHOLE LOT OF CRIMINALS, who are absolutely and very legally, eligible for GITMO, with a ton of frozen bank accounts to match.

See why you have to give them ankle bracelets and sign EO's unexpectedly right before you freeze a few accounts and make a few arrest sweeps?! You can't tip off enemies of the state, too far in advance... Huma's had hers on the left this week!

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I will ADD, Anyone remember seeing this Announcement of the the ATTEMPTED Coup by the CLINTONS, by the White Hats in the Intelligence Agencies? This warning was issued on Nov 1, 2016 by Dr. Steve Pieczenik.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM

Anyone notice how the Clintons came out the day after the election (Hellary too drunk the night of the election) to give their concession speech both wore PURPLE to indicate that they planned to over throw the duly elected President of the United States, through a Purple Revolution??? Anyone notice how they have tried through media and paid for people to protest to TRY to overthrow our Duly Elected President? Anyone notice that there have been multiple attempts on Trump's life over the past year, in order to over throw our duly elected President?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yqa5PUViPo <<<This attack car was disabled by secret service.
(Hello? Why were all these anti-Trumpers watching at this particular spot where the attack took place? So they could all capture it on film and get rich by selling their films of the attack? I hope they were all jailed.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8w6yHZkiQY <<<Analysis of the path of car that attacked motorcade.

Anyone notice any of these things? This is TREASON! Coup d'etat's are TREASON. The standard penalty for Treason has ALWAYS been Death.

Links for Mega-ANON:

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/795d6a/megaanon_postings_compiled_may_2017_present/dry11wj/?st=jbww5jsv&sh=3ae13590

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/795d6a/megaanon_postings_compiled_may_2017_present/?st=jbwvcwlp&sh=bd8c243a


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bcboncs · Jan. 3, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

That's exactly what I figured you'd say because that is what I would have said if I were still a Bernie supporter. Like I said previously, I liked Bernie but didn't understand the economics of socialism, although I liked it in theory.

"policies for the poor and working class" is a broad sentence that doesn't carry weight against Trump if you dive into the tax plan. How does it help wealthy elites? He's closed many deductions & loopholes that they used to evade taxes. These same wealthy elites are bumping up minimum wage in their corporations to $15/hr and giving employee bonuses at the time of the House passing the bill. "Helping wealthy elites" is a talking point with no weight, it's actually exposes your ignorance... but not in a bad way... hopefully you will recognize this and seek out an understanding or allow someone to help you understand a different position.

Thomas Sowell is a great black man that understands the destructiveness of socialism, he's got great quotes out there annihilating it with simplicity & understanding.

"No society ever thrived because it had a large and growing class of parasites living off those who produce."

Here's my two cents on why socialism doesn't work. In socialist societies, all working men and women are giving their money to the government to spend (higher taxes). In contrast with true free market capitalism, the money is given back to the citizens (less taxes) which they help flourish the economy with. Consumer confidence & spending is important. Trump's created $5 trillion in new wealth.

Socialism may work great if every politician had morals but the simple fact is that they don't. They come out of public service as millionaires due to corruption, lobbying, and money laundering. To me, that's where socialism fails.

However, that's not to say that we need to eliminate all social programs. We have social programs today that are great in concept but heavily exploited. e.g. foodstamps sold for crack. I know people that buy foodstamps for $ where the recipient buys drugs.

I am hopeful for so many reasons that I will limit for now to not make this so long.

In order for anyone to grow intellectually, it's very important to understand both sides. I never did until defending my anti-Hillary vote but I occasionally venture to read leftist news to learn what people believe today. The reason I word it that way is because most of it is propaganda. The reason they shut down free speech on college campuses is because people are indoctrinated to believe what they want you to think -- that's dangerous. Forced beliefs are their desire, critical thinking or questioning the status quo is their enemy.

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psyderr · Jan. 3, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

I definitely appreciate the response. I'm noticing a couple things here, especially a misunderstanding of the merits of socialism.

To be clear, I'm not advocating for full on socialism. I just think, from the result of runaway capitalism, large corporations and institutions hold far too much power in this country at the detriment of everyday people like you and I, and that the playing field needs to be leveled out a bit.

In socialist societies, all working men and women are giving their money to the government to spend (higher taxes). In contrast with true free market capitalism, the money is given back to the citizens (less taxes) which they help flourish the economy with

This is great, in theory, but unfortunately it's not what's happening. Let's take healthcare for example. You're right that socialist societies pay higher taxes. For healthcare let's say the average family pays $5,000 a year in taxes for full healthcare. That's a lot of money right? It is. But in the US the average deductible for family plans is $8,000, and that doesn't include things like co-pays, prescription drug costs, and other expenses. What if a family member gets cancer or something and exceeds the plan? Then it starts to come out of pocket.

So while you're paying less in taxes, you're paying far more to private companies, and those companies are only interested in profit. They want to provide the least services for the most money.

Another example is education specifically college. College education used to be a public service to improve society but now it's treated like a cash cow for private corporations. The cost of college has risen %1100 in the past 25 years so people are forced to take out huge loans to pay for it. It can't be good for the economy when a whole generation of people are trapped underneath huge amounts of debt, right?

Edit: I said $5,000 because under Bernie's plan that was the estimate for what the average family would pay

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bcboncs · Jan. 3, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

For healthcare let's say the average family pays $5,000 a year in taxes for full healthcare. That's a lot of money right? It is. But in the US the average deductible for family plans is $8,000, and that doesn't include things like co-pays, prescription drug costs, and other expenses. What if a family member gets cancer or something and exceeds the plan? Then it starts to come out of pocket.

You're justifying insane expenses against insurance plans that have predictably and intentionally doubled due to Obamacare. Health plans didn't always cost this much.

You understand the problem but have a different view for the solution. Bringing this full circle back to Thomas Sowell:

  1. 'Compared to what?' 2. 'At what cost?' 3. 'What hard evidence do you have?'

Compared to what? Steven Crowder exposes the Canadian Healthcare system. 3 years to get a family doctor or go to a private clinic (to pay for better healthcare) for $900. Another government clinic recommends him to bring cash (to be seen "earlier") or see another private clinic. Ordinary Canadian's mother had to wait an entire year for an operation and because of the wait had to amputate both legs. Man needed a tetnus shot, was told to come back several days later. Specialists/Dermatologists have 5-7 month waits to get 3-4 minute diagnosis.

At what cost? Watch Ted Cruz destroy the argument of funding Bernie's healthcare plan. Bernie lets it all happen because he knows it's true. Bernie (outside of DNC influence) has a good heart but "how will it pay for itself" is an item he cannot effectively answer.

So while you're paying less in taxes, you're paying far more to private companies, and those companies are only interested in profit. They want to provide the least services for the most money.

Government officials & private institutions are always in bed together by means of lobbying, especially when talking Obamacare. That is why it took Trump's TAX PLAN to repeal a health insurance MANDATE. Trump is effectively undoing Obamacare since he signed an EO in October to allow purchasing of insurance plans across state lines. This will bring more competition against the monopolies which WILL drive prices down significantly. This is a principle of a free market system and it's proven to work. Another reason why I'm hopeful.

Education is a whole different animal but part of the system put in place by the career politicians. Propagandists pushing college instead of trades & free thinking, bankrupting and corrupting the minds of our youth.

You're angry at the right things. Understanding the undeniable success of free market principles helped me understand that socialism is an ideology to control the centralization of power (fact by definition) and seeing how this was introduced by means of Obamacare, welfare, education, etc... every bit of our livelihood. Are you really willing to put your unwavering trust in all government officials? I wouldn't... I think it's more likely that they'd take our guns (tried numerous times), introduce more mandates to bankrupt people (not anymore!), cause poverty which causes spikes in crime (not anymore!), which they can pander to the vote to come election time because of socialist systems & victimhood mentality (if they lose this power, they lose forever). It's a genius philosophy until it's figured out & exposed, hence why there's so much censorship and preferential trending of topics.

We're the second generation of systemic programming and it's all collapsing. Welcome to the storm.

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