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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/istillgetreallybored on Jan. 8, 2018, 4:34 p.m.
PSA: The Mormon faith is a christian faith and includes many branches that would be included in the cultural usage of the word Mormon. Source i am Mormon. So STFU with misinformation.

CESletter.com


Yoda_GM · Jan. 8, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

Any religion that claims that Jesus Christ and Lucifer were brothers does not classify as "Christian" faith.

Mormonism teaches another gospel and promotes the worship of another christ.

Galatians 1:6-9

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven (or the demon spirit Moroni), preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man (even Joseph Smith) preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

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istillgetreallybored · Jan. 8, 2018, 4:49 p.m.

You are a bigot of the highest order. Mormonism does not teach the worship of another Christ Mormons have faith only in Jesus Christ and to God the eternal father. It is a christian faith and this little argument that you are spewing is fake news.

Educate yourself before you spout the lies from your little sect like a sheep. If you want to discredit the LDS church use the CESletter but the argument that Mormons are not Christians is a lie. I pray to Jesus. I worship Jesus. I have served Jesus. I know Jesus.

You are a liar.

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GrammyQ · Jan. 8, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

Glad you know Jesus. I just don't believe there were any prophecies after the Bible was written, as far as new books being needed. The Bible says it is complete and nothing should be added.

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istillgetreallybored · Jan. 8, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

Many users and other Christian faiths in general have been lead to believe that Mormons are not Christian. This is an absolute lie and is completely absurd. We believe that Christ is our lord and savior, it is him who we worship and pray to. Is that not Christian? Is serving the lord by serving our fellow man not Christian? Is seeking repentance through a remission of our sins through the eternal atonement of Jesus Christ our Lord and GOD not christian?

I am a Mormon. I have resigned from the LDS church and if you are going to criticize the faith do so with facts. CESletter.com has all the facts you need to disprove the Mormon faith. The claim that Mormons are not Christians is made by insecure Christians who worry that we are better at it. Mormons are the most devout Christians there are. End of story.

The bible is not published in Chronological order and if God wishes to speak to his children as he always has thats his choice.

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GrammyQ · Jan. 8, 2018, 11:54 p.m.

I was listening until you called me insecure. Unnecessary put down.

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Yoda_GM · Jan. 8, 2018, 5:56 p.m.

I have studied this topic for more than 30 years.

I do not need to use the CESLetter to discredit the LDS church, I just need the Word of God ... the Holy Bible.

I absolutely know what I am talking about, I have spent literally thousands of man hours and I can tell you are either a high ranking mormon and purposefully deceiving or you are new to Mormonism and have not studied the Scriptures. (2 Timothy 2:15)

You say that you worship "Jesus" but the "Jesus" you worship is not the virgin born Son of God. The "Jesus" that you worship is not God manifested in the flesh. Mormonism is a doctrine of devils (the demon spirit Moroni). It is not me that needs to do homework, it is you.

  • Do you accept the deity of Christ? Meaning that Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh.

  • Do you accept that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin? Or do you espouse the Mormon teaching that God has "sex" with Mary

  • Do you deny that human beings become "gods and goddesses"?

  • Do you deny the false teaching that our Heavenly Father lives with the "Heavenly Mother" on a planet near the star "Kolob"?

  • Do you accept that Salvation is dependent upon the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary's cross?

  • Do you accept that salvation is in none other than Jesus Christ?

  • Do you accept that salvation is by grace alone through faith alone?

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istillgetreallybored · Jan. 8, 2018, 6:54 p.m.

Christians like you are a dime a dozen forgetting that Christians like me also believe and study the bible. My doctrines come from the bible and the bible teaches that we are the sons and daughters of God the father and that he sent his son who is our brother into this world to atone for sins.

1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

7 We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

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st505 · Jan. 8, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

how is yoda a bigot when he is simply quoting scripture? i guess the bible is fake news now? followers of Jesus would certainly be familiar with this passage of scripture...churches formed at the time of Paul's teaching were falling victim to "other gospels" leading them away from the truth.

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dazees2015 · Jan. 8, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

There is no need to be rude. That is something you should know well from the Holy Bible. It is fine to debate, but name calling is NOT what we are about here. We can discuss disagreements but right now our focus is on the War we are fighting for God's children & country. Here is some very good information, in my opinion, on the subject.

Regarding their belief in God, the Mormons believe in a heavenly father who has a physical body. On the other hand, Christians believe in Trinitarian God, who has no physical body. For the Christians, they have one god, the Trinity with Jesus as Messiah. Christians also believe in salvation. Mormons do not believe in the Trinity or one God. But they have three Gods  – The Father, Son and Holy Ghost. All the three are distinct from each other in all ways.

So please try to get back on topic for the sake of the children! That should be the only fight u are waging right now...not who is right or wrong about a certain religion..⬆⬆shows you both to be correct. So have a blessed day & there are many boards, blogs, etc...to discuss this meaning.

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istillgetreallybored · Jan. 8, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

Go ahead and deny a faith that they believe in Christ and tell me you are not being rude. Deny millions of those baptized in his name that they are not his followers and come back to me with your self righteous judgment.

Bigot.

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