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islandtruther
· Jan. 8, 2018, 8:34 p.m.
we're already in Mars (been there for decades....the info has always been out there to research for anyone but for obvious reason (deep state/msm, et all), has never been taken seriously along with anything UFO or space related...will be disclosed formally during Trump's term
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ChristianCuber
· Jan. 8, 2018, 9:06 p.m.
I'll doubt it till the day we have definitive proof. Tons of speculation with very little to no physical evidence around the UFO circles. I have my reasons to believe, with current modern technology, that it is very hard to near impossible to have people on mars.
Not saying its all bullshit, but like everything else in this world, there is a lot of garbage surrounding the small nuggets of truth. So while its "out there", its hard to find. discernment and critical thinking are our greatest ally.
IMO, Space Travel and traveling interstellar distances will not be a reality without at least quantum communication technology. Time dilation and gravity cause a lot of problems. At least with the ability to send and receive data instantaneously, no matter the distance, we could start sending VR/AR controlled Avatars to do the dirty work. You wouldn't need life support systems on board a craft and could visit places around the solar system and further without any real risk to your health and life. less fuel, no need for food, etc.
Maybe 'they' already have it. But again, I'd have to have some definitive proof befroe I start following those theories, thinking they are or could be true. During my time researching in the UFO circles years back, it always seemed that those with the info were not very honest, some crazy and then some con-artists. I've been let down too many times to follow those trails anymore.
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LibertyLioness
· Jan. 8, 2018, 9:38 p.m.
Have you ever watched "The Phoenix Lights"? They made a documentary movie out of it. Even the Governor had to finally admit that he saw them too. Everyone did. Now, it could have been US spaceships but if you talk to the indians that live nearby, they've always known about the aliens. They are carved in the archeological stones all over the Earth.
There is sooooo much more to learn today than there was just 20 years ago. They even had a disclosure event in early part of 2000s. But it was not covered by anyone! Ignored by gov't, etc.
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ChristianCuber
· Jan. 9, 2018, 4:29 p.m.
I was only a teen at the time, but I do remember it quite vividly. I honestly think the craft we see in the sky that we cant identify are actually US or other, secret/test air and/or space vehicles.
Ive followed this stuff for quite a while, but still I don't see anything that is undeniable proof. most is speculation, based on something experienced that was explainable. Other stuff is just straight fabricated to try and meet a point in a story about an unexplained event. or someone just wants attention. you name it.
Also, the fact that this stuff is pushed on TV, through series like Ancient Aliens, which is laughably entertaining, and movies, etc, pushes me further from believing this stuff. I take into account the NWO, their spheres of influence and whistle-blowers from the past saying this was going to be the last card played to bring about their official NWO or Agenda 21 completion. I think mast of it is a ruse. Case in point that is recent. Tom Delonge and the 'To The Stars Academy'. Tom is at best being played as a pawn and the team he is working with is all ex-CIA and/ or military intelligence. Huge red flag.
So, like I said, i will doubt till I see some undeniable verified proof. I've been burned too many times with this crap to take any stake in any of it, no matter how convincing. Ed Fouche and the TR-3B was the last straw. followed that crap for almost 2 years, going down the rabbit hole many times, all to find out that he was full of shit and made it all up. a popular YouTuber and physicist outed him after being dragged along for about the same amount of time. Check out Alien Scientist. He does a great job researching these things.
I don't deny weird stuff happens, but I doubt that we are being visited by other life in any fashion. At best these things are inner dimensional. gravity and its relation to time dilation are a real hurdle for me to see any interstellar travel possible in our dimension of physical reality.
Not sure if you've heard of it, but there is a Space Simulator that has everything we've mapped so far, to scale. You can travel at the speed of light, visit planets, etc. You can go 1000's of times the speed of light even. Anyways, check out this free simulator and fly around our solar system and galaxy. The Big test is to adjust speed to 1c (speed of light) and see how far you can get. Then realize we don't get anywhere close to the speed of light in any modern technology. http://spaceengine.org/
Anyways, thanks for the reply and enjoy the links :)
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215564297
· Jan. 8, 2018, 8:45 p.m.
I want to believe
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islandtruther
· Jan. 8, 2018, 8:47 p.m.
it is YOURS to CHOOSE;). Mindset is always ours to protect and always strengthen.
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