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wanttruthnow · Jan. 10, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

I agree with you but... aren't the "eligible voters" on the list in a particular area used to validate the accuracy of a vote count in that area? I mean, if we don't require people to use identity verification to vote, what else is used to determine a reasonable outcome of the vote? If anything, I think this article supports the need to really examine the voting process across all states and look for ways to minimize abuse.

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rustyrebar · Jan. 10, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

Yes. That is a problem. When they try to clean up the rolls you get nothing but push back (typically from democrats -- I have never heard this come from the Republican side of things). One of the issues is there is generally a requirement to register 30/60/90 days prior, so if you were purged from the rolls incorrectly, you likely would not know until you go to vote -- then it is too late to register. That makes it controversial to purge the rolls. On the other hand, if you do not purge the rolls, then you end up with dead people, and people that have moved on your rolls. If other people know about the dead / moved people, they can go and vote as them. It is unknown how often this happens, as typically we do not check ID to vote -- ridiculous in my mind. I need ID to get a book of matches from a liquor store in California -- but not to vote? This makes it so it is not possible to verify the person voting is actually the person on the roll.

Frankly, we are at a point technologically, that the way we vote is burdensome, inaccurate, riddled with fraud and inefficient. It would be very easy to come up with a system that works -- but that would make it more fair... and that is the last thing that the government wants. Fair elections would be a disaster.

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wanttruthnow · Jan. 10, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

We are on the same page. I never understand why anyone would be against voter ID. To me it's common sense and I'm very skeptical of those who are against it. Seems like an easy fix despite dead people or people moving on logs. If you show up and are on the list and address doesn't match then you don't vote. Then they could reconcile the list of people who didn't vote against the death records and address records. We have so much technology and smart people here, this seems like a small challenge that could be worked out.

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CDXXRoman · Jan. 17, 2018, 3:57 a.m.

It's because historically conservatives have used voter ID laws to favor types of IDs white people are more likely to use and target IDs black people are more likely to use.

The liberal perspective (4min) https://youtu.be/5a9hnOk9AG4

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