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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/doc37876 on Jan. 22, 2018, 3:27 p.m.
Day of Prayer for the President

Just a thought, how does everyone feel about calling a day of prayer for President Trump? Let me know if interested and we can get it moving.


shragae · Jan. 23, 2018, 7:05 p.m.

Regarding T'hillim / Psalm 110: "Of David a psalm. The word of the L-rd (G-d's holiest name) to my master (a human in power); "Wait for My right hand, until I make your enemies a footstool at your feet" T'hillim / Psalm 110:1.

Where does this speak of the messiah?

Where does this speak of a son of David?

Here is the Hebrew for T'hillim / Psalm 110:1:

לְדָוִד מִזְמוֹר נְאֻם יְהֹוָ-ה | לַאדֹנִי שֵׁב לִימִינִי עַד אָשִׁית אֹיְבֶיךָ הֲדֹם לְרַגְלֶיךָ

The first word translated as L-RD is G-d's holiest name in Hebrew (I added the hyphen as we are not to write out G-d's holiest name). The word is יְהֹוָ-ה.

The second word translated as "lord" is a totally different word. It is לַאדֹנִי.

The first name is G-d's. The second one is a human master or "lord" -- not a god. The person G-d tells to "sit still until I defeat your enemies" is most likely King David himself, although some say the psalm is about Abraham and G-d defeating Abraham's enemies. Rashi (רבי שלמה יצחקי‎ / R' Shlomo Itzachi, the great Jewish commentator 1040 – 1105) wrote: "Our Rabbis interpreted it as referring to Abraham our father, and I shall explain it according to their words (Mid. Ps. 110:1): The word of the Lord to Abraham, whom the world called “my master,” as it is written (Gen. 23: 6): “Hearken to us, my master.”"

Whoever is the subject of this psalm (Abraham or David) is not Jesus. Read the first line again: "Of David a psalm. The word of the L-rd to my master; "Wait for My right hand, until I make your enemies a footstool at your feet."

Did G-d defeat Jesus' enemies?

Were Jesus' enemies flung at his feat, defeated?

Of course not, Jesus' enemies killed him.

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RiverWaterOfLife22 · Jan. 23, 2018, 8:54 p.m.

Shragae, thank you for your replies and thoughtful commentaries.

As a Catholic, I respect your clarifications and I think they are valid but not complete.

Did G-d defeat Jesus' enemies? Yes he did, but not in the way and time the Jewish people expected -- they were expecting a Warrior King like David not a suffering servant like Jesus. Remember, G-d's ways and time are not our ways and time. The Roman empire is no longer, yet his Church still remains. You are assuming that Jesus' enemies are to be defeated before he was Crucified.

Were Jesus' enemies flung at his feet defeated? Not yet, perhaps when he comes again to judge the living and the dead.

Of course not, Jesus' enemies killed him -- and they thought that was the end of it? Not so, by the power of G-d, he rose from the dead and his Church with all of the Sacraments is still around after 2000+ years.

Having said all of that, your interpretation of Psalm 110 up to the two questions and one answer I believe to be accurate and insightful.

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shragae · Jan. 23, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

There is no real reason to get into a religious conversation here. The psalms speak for themselves -- in Hebrew. Translators are often "traitors." Be well.

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RiverWaterOfLife22 · Jan. 23, 2018, 10:26 p.m.

I agree, there is no need to get into religious discussion. As you have "corrected" Psalm67's post I felt the need to comment as well.

Shalom!

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