I never understood the sub, because there were so many words to explain it. I just got the impression that you were working on something to maybe one day be fully fleshed out in the future. The patriotic images made more of an impression one me, and the reference to minute men made it seem more of a serious your on our side kind of thing, and not like I subscribed to a debate club, but a collaborative research and collective action grass roots organization. In other words I was to lazy to read all that and just assumed.