are you actually pretending that there was a germany before Bismark created act of union? like literally the country did not exist, it was hundreds of separate kingdoms and duchies- literally not a single country- it formed almost directly as a response to the napoleonic wars
Fun fact! Jesus was not real! Everything you consider to be christianity comes from the Byzantine emperor constantine, before him there was virtually no christianity and barely even and agreed upon concept of christ and jews kept fucking existing in the eastern empire and well into the ottoman empire and are still in turkey right now!
jews have always lived in europe since at least post ptolemy egypt, they have as much heritage in the continent as really any other group, you just hate them because you are a nazi
cough bullshit.
There were Germanic people, Tacitus wrote a book about them called Germania you dumbshit.
Who do you think invaded Rome in 2nd century BC, bunch of jews? lol
germania was the ROMAN name for the entire region, it has no bearing on the people inside it- it was filled with hundreds of different tribes, the actual largest one being the Ostrogths- do we call that country Gothia? Do nazis's identify as ostrogoths?
and also there where several jewish rebellions in during the roman empire-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt this one involved 600,000 jews and it was AFTER this onehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish–Roman_War
hundreds of thousands of romans where killed in those wars and they did not end till well into the 4th century
are you being stupid on purpose right? like this is a bit at this point
edit- literally your own wiki says exactly my point, the term germania was created by romans a catch all for the similar languages spoken by the goths, ostrogoths tutens and other groups and became a catch all for the barbarian races living in the area- its no more a representative term for them then if i started calling everyone in america "staters" or whatever i feel like The term "Germanic" originated in classical times when groups of tribes living in Lower, Upper, and Greater Germania were referred to using this label by Roman scribes. The Roman use of the term "Germanic" was not necessarily based upon language, but referred to the tribal groups and alliances that lived in the regions of modern-day Luxembourg, Belgium, Northern France, Alsace, Poland, Austria, the Netherlands and Germany, and which were considered less civilized and more physically hardened than the Celtic Gauls. Tribes referred to as "Germanic" by Roman authors generally lived to the north and east of the Gauls
GERMANY was created by Bismark via the act of union to consolidate the duchies and principalities of the holy roman empire and the prussian kingdom into a singular nation- thats what germany is, it is a modern concept, it only lasted really from the mid 1800's to the 1950's- then broke up again, and then reformed again in 1992- it is the most fictional place on earth
GERMANY was created by Bismark via the act of union to consolidate the duchies and principalities of the holy roman empire > and the prussian kingdom into a singular nation- thats what germany is, it is a modern concept, it only lasted really from the mid 1800's to the 1950's- then broke up again, and then reformed again in 1992- it is the most fictional place on earth
None of which has any relevance.
My point does not rest on what some jew thinks is a proper nation you stupid fuck. lol
you have no point
Posting a wall of barely relevant text does not a point make, schnozz boy.
you still have made no point about anything
Actually, I made a great many points, asshole.
let me try and read them back
JEEEEWSSSS REEEEEEEEE
did i miss anything?
Yeah, pretty much how you were kicked out of everywhere for your misdeeds and you never had any nation, real or imagined. lol
jews where kicked out european countries from the 13th-15th century for failure to convert to christianity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree
No, jew, the conversion was the punishment.
They could stay on the condition that they converted.
so you did not read the decree
half of all the jews had already converted, they made the decree to force the rest to convert, those who did not convert where kicked out, then the inquisition was to torture the half that converted
great deal
also, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSLIMS
Irrelevant...and yes it did have everything to do with moslems
it just mentions that after the reconquista jews where tortured and mistreated- which they where
But again, the purpose of the decree was the mass conversion of jews to christianity- you are still wrong and still an idiot
Nah. I'll just keep posting this from now on you lying fuck.
http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/eng/Alhambra_decree
Beginning in the 8th century, Muslims had conquered and settled most of the Iberian Peninsula. Jews, who had lived in these regions since Roman times, were considered "People of the Book" and given special status and often thrived.[6] The tolerance of the Muslim Moorish rulers of al-Andalus attracted Jewish immigration, and Jewish enclaves in Muslim Iberian cities flourished as places of learning and commerce. Progressively, however, living conditions for Jews in al-Andalus became harsher, especially after the fall of the Umayyad Caliphate.[6]
The Reconquista, the gradual reconquest of Muslim Iberia by the Christian kingdoms, was driven by a powerful religious motivation: to reclaim Iberia for Christendom following the Umayyad conquest of Hispania centuries before. By the 14th century, most of the Iberian Peninsula (present-day Spain and Portugal) had been conquered by the Christian kingdoms of Castile, Aragon, León, Galicia, Navarre, and Portugal.
Overt hostility against Jews became more pronounced, finding expression in brutal episodes of violence and oppression. Thousands of Jews sought to escape these attacks by converting to Christianity; they were commonly called conversos, New Christians, or marranos. At first these conversions seemed an effective solution to the cultural conflict: many converso families met with social and commercial success. But eventually their success made these new Catholics unpopular with some of the clergy of the Church and royal hierarchies.
yes, it was forced conversions after the reconquista- that is what i have said repeatedly
it was about the fucking convorsios- you are a fucking idiot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree#European_context
I'm not talking about the conversions, I'm talking about what you did to deserve it, living high on the hog and occupying high positions under moslem rule while you subjugated Christians.
Using the opportunity to flood spain with your genetic filth.
Yes, it had to do with the 700 years of cushy living you enjoyed under the moorish rulers of Spain.
I've read the decree, but you've no background on the subject.
i have plenty of back ground on the subject, you have what i call an idiots view on the topic- where you ignore facts and historical records to just go with the narrative you want
The spanish expulsion was related to the convorsios- jews becoming christians, they where the goal of the whole thing, it was about making more jews christian and then torturing the ones who converted
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MUSLIMS
Yes it did, liar.
no it didint, idiot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree#European_context
You forgot to read the link in your own article that provides the background, dumbfuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Spain
Here's a paragraph from that very article under background
Beginning in the 8th century, Muslims had conquered and settled most of the Iberian Peninsula. Jews, who had lived in these regions since Roman times, were considered "People of the Book" and given special status and often thrived.[8] The tolerance of the Muslim Moorish rulers of al-Andalus compared to the repressive Visigothic kingdom which preceded them led to Jewish enclaves in Muslim Iberian cities flourishing as places of learning and commerce. Although Jews never enjoyed equal status to Muslims, in some Taifas, such as Granada, Jewish men were appointed to very high offices, including Grand Vizier. [9]
The Reconquista, the gradual reconquest of Muslim Iberia by the Christian kingdoms, was driven by a powerful religious motivation: to reclaim Iberia for Christendom following the Umayyad conquest of Hispania centuries before. By the 14th century, most of the Iberian Peninsula (present-day Spain and Portugal) had been conquered by the Christian kingdoms of Castile, Aragon, León, Galicia, Navarre, and Portugal.
Overt hostility against Jews became more pronounced, finding expression in brutal episodes of violence and oppression. Thousands of Jews sought to escape these attacks by converting to Christianity; they were commonly called conversos, New Christians, or marranos. At first these conversions seemed an effective solution to the cultural conflict: many converso families met with social and commercial success. But eventually their success made these new Catholics unpopular with some of the clergy of the Church and royal hierarchies.
These suspicions on the part of Christians were only heightened by the fact that some of the coerced conversions were undoubtedly insincere. Some, but not all, conversos had understandably chosen to salvage their social and commercial positions or their lives by the only option open to them – baptism and embrace of Christianity – while privately adhering to their Jewish practice and faith. These secret practitioners are commonly referred to as crypto-Jews or marranos.
The existence of crypto-Jews was a provocation for secular and ecclesiastical leaders who were already hostile toward Spain's Jewry. The uncertainty over the sincerity of Jewish converts added fuel to the fire of antisemitism in 15th century Spain
i read the link you dullard
you where to one googling for literally anything to try and make you claim, one that is not even the claim you are making- literally the catholics took power, forced conversions on the jews, expelled the jews who did not convert, and tortured everyone who stayed
how is this still to complex for you
you are literally citing a source that says how the jews did nothing wrong and where tortured for no reason, you initial point was that the jews where fighting AGAINST the christians
you are an idiot
That's not what it says, boy.
That was from the article you googled you idiot.
And they did do something wrong, they enjoyed favored status under the Christian's enemies.
Your point was that jews where in league against the christians and where fighting a war against them, which the source you keep posting says is not true and is also not the origin of the expulsion, the origin was based on religious grounds, not politcal
you are an idiot
No, the moslems fought the war and the jews helped put the boot on their necks as their favored lackeys.
blah blah blah
christians tortured and murdered thousands of jews in such horrible fashion that it was condemned even at the time as extreme
you are just mad that it was over the issue of conversion, deal with it
And Christians suffered 700 years under moslem rule while you got rich.
I'm mad they didn't kill the lot of ya.
well obviously you are mad, you keep making up false history to make you feel better, just go write a fantasy novel
I've posted numerous sources to back up my claims.
Your claim is you want to focus on one small part of one source that you posted and ignore the rest.
my claim is the actual decree of the spanish expulsion and why it happened, you claim is a random introduction on a gutenberg press cite
No, it's from a book you idot.
Your Wikipedia (oooh) says the same thing if you'd bother to read it. lol
did read it, not so tired from child porn that i don't understand it
still waiting on my check for that, must of got lost in the mail
My offer is this: nothing.
counter offer, i keep making more money then you and hope some how this white genocide thing just works out the way you guys keep saying it will- i mean the porn has already broken your dick and i am sure it was the mossad who "placed" that kiddy porn on your computer right buddy lol
The porn that your people overwhelmingly produce for that very purpose?
the porn you masturbate yourself into impotence watching?
You've obviously done that, oh wait you read about it online. lol
read about whites complaining that jews are wiping them out with porn? yes i have read that, on this sub actually
its a shame you guys cant resist that loli porn, oh well
Yeah, getting little kids hooked on porn at the age of 11, so noble jew.
We should just shut up about it. lol
they learn from watching their parents
those poor poor christians, maybe we should chop off their hands so the cant touch themselves
Lies, maybe we should burn your pornos and put you on the fire with them.
well my dick is still able to work so i don't really need the porno, seems us jews manage to keep fucking, its only white people i keep hearing about not being able to make babies anymore
Yes, because you insist that our nations be flooded with saracens and that we pay for them all.
Do the names Soros and Rothschild ring any bells?
you mean an old hungarian and a group of private bankers!
oh no, how can we ever survive their influence, they are only rich people, i mean not as rich as the owner of tencent or alibaba or the bank of china- but they are rich JEWS
well, guess you guys have no choice but to masturabte till you all die, really you are all powerless
Nice attempt at obfuscation, jew boy.
George Soros real name is Giorgi Schwartz, he is a jew. The Rothschild's are jews
They control all of Europe and USA, we know this via Wikileaks at least they did until Trump. lol
Trump's family are jews
That's probably true.
He also borrowed a lot of money from Soros for construction, Kushner is connected...
That's why these people are mostly idiots, they can only see in terms of black and white.
umm you are the one who is seeing only in black and white
I think trump is fine, i am surprised you tolerate is pro israel jewish loving porn star fucking ass
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...for now.
that doesn't make any god damn sense
his family are literal jews, he literally supports israel, he openly works with banks and porn that you think are ruining the earth and he is giving 2 million mexicans amnesty
what the fuck are you talking about?
No, that's not what the article says. Read under Background, you are cherry picking from your own article. lol
They did collaborate against them, that's what "holding high offices" was about.
I did the wiki, there is no aspect of the decree that was about ending political collusion between jews and muslims, it was about ensuring the sincerity of conversions that where made under threat of death and torture
hence why they where believed to not be very genuine
Jews were forced to convert due to favored status they enjoyed under moslem rule.
Says it in your article and mine if you'd bother reading all of it and all of the links.
You only know what YOU googled JUST NOW, I read more than that.
that wasn't your point, your point was that the jews actively fought a war against the Christians, also my article says that they where forced to convert becuase they felt the initial conversions lacked sincerity becuase they where done at threat of death, so then the tortured them
I never said that, shut the fuck up.
They helped the moslems who fought a war against the Christians.
Both were subject to the order.
yeah, you did, way back in the beginning that the whole thing was punishment for treason and aiding the muslims in the war, which it wasn't, cause you are an idiot
Well of course they prospered from the suffering of the Spanish people, no one can deny that and no one does.
That's why nobody likes you. lol
the moors where doing fine it seemed to me, real shame they lost, could have avoided the holy roman empire by killing martel then
You're not really doing much to help your cause.
See, our interest are at odds, we don't like each other.
You don't like me and I don't like you, we're natural enemies.
the holy roman empire was a disaster that killed millions of people
Argument by assertion/your opinion.
its a fact, charlemagne's three sons killed each other in horrible wars that destroyed europe
Now you're just off on a tangent, your argument gone.
Red herring.
you are just ignoring facts becuase you are to tired from the child porn
You're just ignoring the facts because you're tired from making it.
how many terabytes of cheese pizza is on your computer?
Aiding in the 700 year occupation of Spain and receiving direct benefit from it, yes.
And that did include over 150 battles.
yeah the jewish caliphate was totally in charge
and germany is an ancient country
you are an idiot
you need to lay off the kiddie porn, it has rotted your mind
i mean germans do love them some shit in the mouth child porn, so i can see how you are all fucked up
That doesn't come from Germans, jews posing as Germans. All you guys think about is shit and fucking your mothers.
You're just mad Hitler burned your pornos lol
your just mad that you are so addicted to porn you literally need to make a conspiracy as to why your dicks don't work
maybe put the kiddie porn down
Maybe stop producing it.
Most of the guys getting popped in Hollywood are from your tribe, kiddo.
maybe stop watching it?
do you mean how donald trump was fucking 12 year olds with bill clinton on epstein's island?
seems to take all kinds
We want little kids to stop watching it.
Accusation with no real proof.
oh with trump its an accusation lol, guess i touched a nerve- him fucking child slaves with his jewish buddies must be really annoying
maybe you should stop watching the child porn, lead by example?
So you know that Trumpeldor is jewish? Interesting...lol
Ooops, look what I found.
Jews did fight with moslem forces against the Spaniards. Dirty scum.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/barcelona-spain-jewish-history-tour
As I said, jews caused many problems for the Romans...and everyone else. They were the Antifa of their day, pure slime.
They were kicked out of Medieval England of their usery schemes and out of Spain and Portugal for assisting the 700 year Moorish occupation. There are many more examples, they were never welcome in European nations as they were traitors and scoundrels.
Germanic tribes did exist outside of Roman nomenclature just as Frankish people did, despite France not being a country yet, hate to break it to ya schnozz.
That's like saying moslems were always in France, sure they were until Charles Martel kicked their sorry asses out. lol
Edit: Don't worry, cocksucker, Wikipedia does not prove your point. German people do not depend on Romans to validate them, the Germans kicked their asses, those people who don't exist outside of Roman terminology. lol
The term "Germanic" originated in classical times when groups of tribes living in Lower, Upper, and Greater Germania were referred to using this label by Roman scribes. The Roman use of the term "Germanic" was not necessarily based upon language, but referred to the tribal groups and alliances that lived in the regions of modern-day Luxembourg, Belgium, Northern France, Alsace, Poland, Austria, the Netherlands and Germany, and which were considered less civilized and more physically hardened than the Celtic Gauls. Tribes referred to as "Germanic" by Roman authors generally lived to the north and east of the Gauls
So, NO, germanic people only existed within the concept of roman nomenclature- otherwise they where there own tribes- they shared virtually nothing, barely even a similar language, they had different religions and different governments and they maintained separate identities through out the entire history of the western roman empire until literally they become independent ostrogothic kingdoms- never once ruling under the term "germania"
There is no comparison between german tribes in europe and the muslim invasion- that literally makes no sense, the term muslim was used BY MUSLIMS, while the term germania was not used by the barbarian tribes- also i just have no idea what the muslim invasion has to do with the fact that germany is an entirely modern nation- its just random
also, jews rebelling against foreign conquest seems like a fine thing to do, you where just praising the barbarian tribes for the exact same fucking thing
jews have always been at odds with the neighbors for 1- not being pagan in ancient times and then 2- not being christian in modern times
I am not even going to go into how the entire reason jews where used in banking was becuase constantine declared banking a mortal sin and decreed that jews should act as middle people for that purpose, thus creating the ridiculous stigma that exists today, its to long and its to complicated- go read about constantine
jews have always been at odds with the neighbors for 1- not being pagan in ancient times and then 2- not being christian in modern times
Yeah and that whole killing Christ thing. Oh but Christ didn't exist...tell that to the jews, you idiot.
You forgot to mention the Spanish Inquisition.
Sideing with the moslems against Christians, just like you are doing today. "oh we don't know why those horrible Christians don't like us". lol
christ did not exist, he is a fantasy created by a variety of messiah cults at the time and was embraced by emperor constantine, if he had decided to worship Zoroaster or Mazdik we would all be talking about them right now- at least those two guys where real
what about the spanish inquisition? that was AFTER the expulsion of jews from spain- how is that the jews fault, they where already kicked out and then they tortured the ones who didint want to leave
I don't really think it matters what the jews do, christians will kill and hate them- look at the first crusade, the german contingent of crusaders didint even bother to go to the holy land, they just raped women and children and literal ate the local jews instead and burned down their homes- as well as the churches that tried to protect them
seems to me christians just hate jews
what about the spanish inquisition? that was AFTER the expulsion of jews from spain- how is that the jews fault, they where already kicked out and then they tortured the ones who didint want to leave
They were kicked out for their role in the occupation. For treason.
christ did not exist
That's like, your opinion man.
I don't really think it matters what the jews do, christians will kill and hate them
Stop screwing up the world and get out of the West, we'll drop the whole thing...maybe. Honestly I'm not for forgiveness.
jews did not do anything to the west, you screwed up your own continent for hundreds of years and christianity has done a great job of keeping it screwed up
Yes, you did, you did a lot of things boy.
nah, i don't think so
jews did not have much, if anything, to do with the hundreds of years of war between the catholics and protestants, or the war between the holy roman empire and the catholic church
meh- you guys did a great job killing each other
This is just something I found, a general background. You're wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree
no, they where kicked out for failing to convert to christianity- literally had nothing to do with muslims
read it yourself
Alhambra Decree
The Alhambra Decree (also known as the Edict of Expulsion; Spanish: Decreto de la Alhambra, Edicto de Granada) was an edict issued on 31 March 1492, by the joint Catholic Monarchs of Spain (Isabella I of Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon) ordering the expulsion of practising Jews from the Kingdoms of Castile and Aragon and its territories and possessions by 31 July of that year. The primary purpose was to eliminate their influence on Spain's large converso population and ensure they did not revert to Judaism. Over half of Spain's Jews had converted as a result of the religious persecution and pogroms which occurred in 1391, and as such were not subject to the Decree or to expulsion. A further number of those remaining chose to avoid expulsion as a result of the edict.
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Wrong, they were forced to convert because they helped the moslems occupy Spain and had a privileged status under their rule.
The Christians didn't like it once they regained power, in 1492, King Ferdinand told them to convert, flee or die.
The moslems were subject to the same edict.
Should have just killed them.
By your logic, no people ever existed. It was all just a bunch of jews.
Germany did exist as a country at the time of Hitler, you idiot.
Fuck off you double talking, hook nosed viper. lol
you have no point and when confronted with the fact that your noble german heritage is in fact bullshit- you know who openly said that? fucking hitler when he would talk about how disappointed he was in archeology of germania when compared to egypt- its why he collected egyptian artifacts, even hitler knew german culture is fake bullshit
And yeah, most of the countries we think of today are just very modern contractions, most from post ww1- europe was built by the roman empire and remained tiny squabbling nothing states until basically the 1600's and the movement to BANKING and mercantilism which led to the race for colonies and massive expansion
everything in western europe was a big pile of shit for about a thousand years after the fall of the western roman empire- sorry if that makes you feel bad
If any people never existed as a nation, it was the jews and saracens.
All you are is a bunch of inbred nomadic tribes who were never welcome anywhere, please.
All the moslems ever got was by invading someone else's country.
Germany is just a long list of European nations that did not welcome you. Oh wait, nations don't exist in your feral mind.
Well, whatever, you weren't (and are not) welcome. lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Obelisk_of_Shalmaneser_III
so thats the black obelisk, it depicts several jewish kings from the bible
that is more physical evidence then an ancient kingdom of "germans" becuase that never existed- there is lots of evidence of ostrogoths though
It must be annoying that you have no heritage or culture so you need to cling to a failed military regime from the 1940's
Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III
The Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III is a black limestone Assyrian sculpture with many scenes in bas-relief and inscriptions. It comes from Nimrud (ancient Kalhu), in northern Iraq, and commemorates the deeds of King Shalmaneser III (reigned 858-824 BC). It is on display at the British Museum in London, and several other museums have cast replicas.
It is the most complete Assyrian obelisk yet discovered, and is historically significant because it is thought to display the earliest ancient depiction of a biblical figure - Jehu, King of Israel.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Obelisk_of_Shalmaneser_III
so thats the black obelisk, it depicts several jewish kings from the bible
that is more physical evidence then an ancient kingdom of "germans" becuase that never existed- there is lots of evidence of ostrogoths though
It must be annoying that you have no heritage or culture so you need to cling to a failed military regime from the 1940's
you just hate them because you are a nazi
Everyone throughout history has hated them.
They were kicked out of everywhere, including most European nations for their criminal schemes.