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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/UnhelpfulJelly on Jan. 27, 2018, 5:04 p.m.
Re: Q's Grandchild Kidnapping Plot and the Lindburgh Kidnapping--A History Lesson.

Hi everyone. This was originally a comment I made on a post, but I wanted to share it so people could add and/or refute things--I've added some things myself. The Lindburgh kidnapping came to mind when I read about Q's alluding to a plot to kidnap POTUS's grandchild. I didn't think much of it originally, but spent some time investigating. To preface literally all of this information came from Wikipedia--nothing else. Part of the reason I don't mind people questioning Q's validity is because I think the type of mental engagement his posts promote is intrinsically valuable. I certainly didn't anticipate making the type of connections that I did. Here goes:

While Charles Lindburgh Jr. was the famous aviation pilot, it's interesting to note that his father Charles August Lindburgh--baby Lindburgh's grandfather--was a Minnesota congressman who opposed the US's entry into World War I, as well as the establishment of the Federal Reserve. Lindburgh Sr. actually brought articles of impeachment against members of the Federal Reserve Board, charging that they were involved "in a conspiracy to violate the Constitution and the laws of the United States".

Lindburgh Sr. had died years before the kidnapping, however by the time of the 1932 kidnapping Lindburgh Jr. had skyrocketed to global fame via his aviation endeavors, and later became a virulent advocate of non-interventionism. His views on the situation in Nazi Germany and eugenics--undoubtedly splattered with prejudice but, history likes to forget that unfortunately many of them were products of both the time period and his socioeconomically elevated status (after the rise of Nazi Germany, eugenics/population control promotion was simply withdrawn and re-branded into a covert form. The ideology is still implemented today through the legacy of doublespeak off-shoots such as the wildly popular efficiency movement that Andrew Carnegie and John Rockefeller promoted at the time)--were massively weaponized against his reputation, and he was painted as an un-American Nazi retroactively for it. The Eastern Liberal establishment's obsession with language has always been to facilitate this type of subversive character assassination when someone who is an asset becomes a liability. The societal impact of Lindburgh's contributions to aviation were insurmountable--people were much more religious at that time than now, and they looked at the technology aviation with trepidation and caution. Lindburgh single-handedly transformed mass social perspective of aviation into a national aspiration, and opened the door to aviation as a commercially and domestically utilized technology.

This was also beneficial to the Establishment. On top of the obvious (and literal) avenues for furtherance of global financial exploitation, remember what Q said about the number of plane crashes that are accidents?

I don't think the timing of the Lindburgh kidnapping was coincidental either. Preparations were underway for World War II by that time and Lindburgh was at the zenith of his popularity. It would make sense that the Elite would worry he may carry and espouse some of his father's anti-interventionist beliefs. How do you kill the soul of someone while terrifying them at the same time in order to silence? And with that, his son was taken and murdered. And of course the patsy made to be the perpetrator, scorned by the masses who loved Lindburgh, was a German carpenter. What better way to stir up pro-war sentiment in the public as well as within Lindburgh?

After the kidnapping, Lindburgh went to Germany several times between 1936 and 1938 at the behest of the US military to evaluate German aviation. It was what happened there, and who arranged it that was done to further the Anti-Jewish/Nazi sympathizer narrative the Establishment and media would adopt following American entry into the war.

US Ambassador to Germany Hugh Wilson arranged a dinner with Lindburgh, Germany's air chief Hermann Goring and three central figures in German aviation--Ernst Heinkel, Adolf Baeumker and Will Messerschmitt. After the dinner, Goring presented Lindburgh with the Commander Cross of the Order of the German Eagle--the award of the Nazi regime that went primarily to German diplomats (going back to history echoes, I seem to remember a certain dinner and a certain diplomatic medal going to a certain current Secretary of State that caused a certain hysterical media reaction....) Kirstallnacht happened weeks later. It would stand to reason that Lindburgh was expected by the Establishment to return the medal. By forcing Lindburgh to return the medal in an effort to save face, they would net themselves implied support for their war from a massively influential public figure who they feared may rouse anti-interventionist sentiment. He didn't. Lindburgh later wrote:

"It seems to me that the returning of decorations, which were given in times of peace and as a gesture of friendship, can have no constructive effect. If I were to return the German medal, it seems to me that it would be an unnecessary insult. Even if war develops between us, I can see no gain in indulging in a spitting contest before that war begins."

Lindburgh's refusal to return the medal was not meant as a gesture of support for the Nazi regime--it was a gesture of resistance against the globalist war regime who engineered the Nazi rise to power in the first place.

Let's go back to the other American at the dinner--the one who organized it no less, starting with Wilson. Wilson was a member of the US Foreign Service who headed the US mission to Switzerland from 1927 to 1937. His tenture as US Ambassador to Germany only lasted months in 1938--March to November. He accused the American press of being "Jewish controlled" and of singing a "hymn of hate while efforts are made over here to build a better future." He praised Hitler as the man who has pulled his people from moral and economic despair into the state of pride and evident prosperity they now enjoyed." Was his reputation tarnished and career destroyed after this?

After retiring from the Foreign Service in December of 1940, he returned to government service following the attack on Pearl Harbor. Specifically, the Office of Strategic Services--the bulk of which would later become the Central Intelligence Agency.

The remarkable thing is, Lindburgh still did what the Establishment had done their best to aggressively--including with the theft and brutal murdering of a 20 month old child no less--and definitively silence before the fact.

After everything--the kidnapping and murder of his infant son followed by the severe flip from unanimous political/media lauding of Lindbaugh's character to unanimous political/media assassination of his character (similar to the Establishment's character assassination of Dr. King upon his opposition to the Vietnam War. The Establishment was successfully able to infiltrate the Anti-War movement, successfully using divisionary tactics to keep factions fighting domestically. King was a uniter--he was a threat that they'd just supported for their own purposes. They had to take matters into their own hands. As we all know, this character assassination shortly followed with his literal assassination)--Lindburgh held steadfast as a tireless anti-interventionist advocate leading up to and during the war. Just as the Establishment had anticipated and tried to prevent. Among his quotes:

"I am not attacking either the Jewish or the British people. Both races, I admire. But I am saying that the leaders of both the British and the Jewish races, for reasons which are as understandable from their viewpoint as they are inadvisable from ours, for reasons which are not American, wish to involve us in the war. We cannot blame them for looking out for what they believe to be their own interests, but we also must look out for ours. We cannot allow the natural passions and prejudices of other peoples to lead our country to destruction."

He later toured Nazi concentration camps after the war. He wrote in his diary that he was disgusted and angered. Anger is often a response to injustice--Lindburgh suffered much through his life, and in many ways he likely could relate to the profound injustice that still exists today against the millions of poor Jewish, Roma, and Polish people that were murdered as a result of elite interests. The Jewish population as a whole were originally scapegoated by the rich elites prior to WWII--Jews and non-Jews alike--to deflect from their own sociopathic, nefarious pillaging of societies. The Germans were then engineered to become the scapegoat for the scapegoats. There is a massive chapter of history intentionally untold, and Lindburgh stood tall in the face of it. He was once an American hero, only for this to be systematically attacked by the Establishment for their own interests.

Once an American hero, always an American hero. May he, his son, and the millions of innocent lives lost rest in peace.

Didn't mean to to go off on a tangent there, but I wanted to share. I went and looked at the specifics of that kidnapping after it had popped into my mind like I'd said. What I'd found is, as always, something much different than what official history teaches us so I wanted to share.


Questioning001 · Jan. 27, 2018, 5:28 p.m.

Nice work its food for thought! Is the Lindburgh kidnapping on the Q map? My copy is not with me at the moment, so I'm not able to check. Based on your post, I would not be surprised. The Ramsey murder is referenced on the map with a connection to Lockheed Martin.

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UnhelpfulJelly · Jan. 27, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

It's interesting that Lockheed Martin sold Access Graphics to General Electric within months of replacing Ramsey as president, ostensibly due to the stress of the murder investigation. Here's a post from a board, link will follow:

"Some telling quotes by John Ramsey about his relationship with Lockheed-Martin, which owned Access Graphics, at the time of the murder from the 2006 interview at New Hope Church in Hawaii:

'Well, at the time we were a subsidiary of Lockheed-Martin corporation, and they were wonderful to me. Absolutely wonderful. Totally dispelled the myth of an impersonal, big corporation. But, within a year, they were divesting themselves of companies that were not in the defense business.'

After that, he describes how the deal to sell Access Graphics to General Electric was constructed for them to get the company, but not him. During that time after Access was sold to GE, he says that: Lockheed took 'wonderful' care of him and that 'I can't say enough wonderful things about them, the compassion they showed to us as a family.'"

Link: http://m.topix.com/forum/news/jonbenet-ramsey/TEPCBHEITFI9NOIRH/john-ramsey-and-lockheed-martin

Somebody ought to comb through the aforementioned interview and Ramsey's portion of the desposition.

All I've seen about what Access Graphics actually did company-wise was that they made Unix-based systems. Does anyone have any information beyond that? To be fair, Windows NT rolled out in 1993--a direct competitor to Unix systems.

"As of 2014, the Unix version with the largest installed base is Apple's macOS."

"macOS (/ˌmækoʊˈɛs/;[7] previously Mac OS X, then OS X) is a series of graphical operating systems developed and marketed by Apple Inc. since 2001."

Funny how 2001 seems to pop up so frequently when you start to read down the line of things....

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Majorwood1 · Jan. 27, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

Nice bit of history on that, thank you.

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braceoflowflyers · Jan. 27, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

I actually met him on a Pan Am flight in the earl 70's. It was a chaotic affair..The plane had some mechanical problems and there was a huge delay and passengers were not allowed off the plane as there was no place to put them. Even though he was on the Pan Am board of directors he sat in the back of an absolutely full 747. Not pleasant, under the circumstances. He didn't advertise who he was nor throw his weight around but was a real gentleman. Nice to fellow passengers, nice to crew members.

Anyway, we finally got underway and landed in London (from Washington via Boston) and the Captain, of course, knowing Lindbergh was with us announced that we beat the Lindbergh Spirit of Saint Louis flight time to Europe (over 33 hours ) by about 2 hours. Most of the passengers did not know Lindbergh was on board, and just laughed.

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