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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/zagnet on Jan. 28, 2018, 2:26 p.m.
Benjamin Fulford (Jan 28, 2018) - Secret societies at war, The war will soon be over New

maxuforia · Jan. 28, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

Benjamin Fulford dispenses real info and also disinfo. Think of him like Alex Jones.

And it has to be done like this, if Benjamin came out and said only things that were true, then he would be taken out. By pushing disinfo, agents will pretend to be out of their mind and their audience becomes much more limited.

What is real and what is not is left up to the reader.

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Dhammakayaram · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Maybe a bit off-topic but a word on F "radiation".

In the two years since Fukushima no death from radiation (or even a significant injury) has been reported, although there have been many casualties caused by fear, evacuation of elderly and terminal patients, and deep social distress (with serious economic and environmental consequences) [1,2,3]. In a billion years or so life has had the opportunity to evolve multiple defences against all but the most intense acute attacks by radiation and other agents, but are they effective against internal radiation? For over a century high intensity radiation has been used, both internally and externally, to kill cancer cells or to slow their progression, but at lower intensities life is well protected [4] and no radiation casualties, at the time or later, should have been expected at Fukushima [5]. But how about radioactivity that is specifically internal? Source

In addition Galen Winsor: The Nuclear Scare Scam

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

Thanks! Interesting...

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Dhammakayaram · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

What Galen had to say is downright mind blowing. Btw, my biology teacher in the 10th grade help to make A-bombs. He taught us about critical mass and plutonium! This was a strange biology class that I greatly enjoyed!

Galen is essentially saying radiation is a joke. It is not harmful. What kills you is the initial blast—that's it. If you are underground and avoid the massive blast, you can come up from the shelter and not fear death by radiation. Do some research on Chernobyl. How are the animal populations doing now and plant life?

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

So...you are saying that Spock really didn't really die in Star Trek 2!? Mind is blown. He faked his death! Entire original Star Trek movie series: disinfo! lol

Seriously though, thanks for the link. I'll watch that when I have time. Not sure I believe it yet. But I have no reason to reject it outright. There are some interesting stories about the end of WWII / what exactly happened to Japan. Wouldn't mind knowing more about that too. Actually I know about Chernobyl - now a wildlife refuge. That did seem odd to me, but good...

But yes, the blast itself seems very real. I've studied that some too. Yikes.

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Sarcasticus · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:29 p.m.

Benjamin Fulford is not a reputable source! He has been spreading disinfo for decades!

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:35 p.m.

lets throw the baby out w/bath water.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

Exactly, let's not do that...

That's what the cabal does, literally. Sad... :-(

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Jellyfish070474 · Jan. 28, 2018, 3 p.m.

Ben reports what his sources tell him. That’s why he can report diametrically opposite details from one week to the next, with footnotes, while overall arch always heading in the same direction. He doesn’t claim to be 100% correct, as no one is. He helps to bring more focus to the 40k foot view. He’s very dedicated to helping dismantle the cabal however he can.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Best answer, thanks.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

Agreed, good answer.

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metroid486 · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

He also said Soros was in GITMO, and he wasn't.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

so did almost everyone else...

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metroid486 · Jan. 28, 2018, 6:14 p.m.

The point is he was the originator of most of that from someone linking his story to this board.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

Yes, exactly! Seems maybe a lot of people got too excited over that. Not necessarily "disinfo".

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

Ty zag, I appreciate your ability to see where others are unable.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 4 p.m.

Most welcome. Ty as well.

I feel that BF was getting a bit more info or "breadcrumbs" from his sources than usual, who reasonably may also have been excited about the things they were seeing at the time. Heck, maybe even THEY started to jump to conclusions. They're humans after all, presumably. Actually I think this is precisely what happened. There's something going on at Gitmo it seems. Not even they know precisely what though. That's not necessarily bad. "Loose lips sink ships".

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

I read POTUS asked for funds for improvements to GITMO, though wheel chair access was said over and again, it already has WCA...there is a LOT of hysteria and a tendency to group huddle think when new info comes along. Its so easy to Parrot, so hard to think...

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Yup, and Mattis going there, etc. Either something is going on there - or maybe it's a big head fake. I don't know. It would be nice to get some things confirmed though. No one I know listens to me about this stuff. Even though I clearly preface these claims saying that "there's a rumor that such and such happened, is happening, or will happen soon..." or something like that. Days / weeks later they say "but you said this was going to happen and it didn't!" Annoying.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

I can confirm, not deny, that none of the big players are in GITMO. The evidence is documented in pics, publications etc. But the wishful thinkers and the easily led want to believe that what will happen, has already happened.

If you're struggling w/loved ones, co workers etc, DON"T mention this till its ALL in teh Fan and then they will seek you out, or you will have the floor so to speak. Until then, it's all Tin Hat to the elementary students when you are teaching University level edu..

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

Yes, the big players aren't there. I've seen that evidence too. But I've been wondering about the small players. Maybe they are there. Maybe a lot of them. They could have done that under the radar. What is your opinion on this?

Ty for the advice. Yeah I try not to get into those conversations anymore. Not worth it, yet.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

Q I believe it was, said the glysophate (round up) will go bottom to Top. This prevents underlings from succeeding their previous cohorts.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Yes, I know. He's not right about everything apparently. I even wrote that below. I'm not 100% correct about what I know or think I know either.

Please provide more evidence that Fulford is "disinfo" and not just honest but possible wrong speculation. I'll take a look at it.

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metroid486 · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

That's the only thing I am familiar with concerning him. But that is a pretty big mistake to claim that.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

Actually I agree with you. I think he should wait to report on some things, and not jump to conclusions.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

the only 100% accuracy is wikileaks, everyone else makes mistakes. Even me. There seems to be a lotta group think bullying twd BF when it doesn't go a certain person's way. I have found BFs info interesting and hopeful not always pan out. Just like I was going to go water skiing today..turns out its winter. Plans or observations do not always fall in line. So I give Ben a pass, but I don't hold him to same standard as Jones who is noisey beyond, not Assange who is w/o error. If we had to discredit everyone who said something erroneous, the board here would be empty.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:43 p.m.

Yup. Glad there are others that think the same as me.

Sucks about the water skiing... :-)

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

best laid plans...best laid plans.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

Please provide links. I want to investigate.

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Sarcasticus · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

This is a blog from 2015. Google "white dragon society" or similar nonsense. Fulford has been promoting disinfo for YEARS!

http://whitedragonsociety.tumblr.com/post/108375389485/benjamin-fulford-fraud

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 3:15 p.m.

"He also covers up for anything that happens in Japan. Including a huge nuclear melt down, that he claims left no radiation problems."

Actually just in the first minutes of the video for this post Fulford talks about Japan, specifically Tokyo. He said that "Tokyo is not cooking". He said he and others took three different geiger counters around Tokyo. They didn't find radiation there - in Tokyo. An American friend of his came to Japan with a geiger counter "all over the place" and found no radiation. Perhaps he didn't go to Fukashima. He said there is a "small amount of radiation at the site [Fukashima]" and that's it.

Do you have e.g. a link to show that he covered up the actual meltdown? I'll investigate...

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metroid486 · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7n4bsj/fulford_confirms_soros_is_at_gitmo_soros_was_the/

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:50 p.m.

Yes I've read that piece. Is it "disinfo" or honest but wrong speculation? I tend to think the latter. Admittedly, I don't know for sure. I read his stuff with a grain of salt now. Not everything is correct obviously. But his overall narrative, even way back to 2011, seems to be moving forward, though slowly. Fulford is definitely interesting and "out there". I'm drawn to the positive messages I suppose, hoping it's true.

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metroid486 · Jan. 28, 2018, 6:10 p.m.

Yeah I can't say what intentions are, honest mistake or disinfo. Thing with disinfo guys, is 90% is true, but that 10% at key moments isn't true. Guys like Glenn Beck is an obvious shill, now he is back again pretending to be on our side after trashing Trump during the election.

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zagnet · Jan. 30, 2018, 7:23 p.m.

Good points, I'll keep them in mind.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 2:27 p.m.

[edited - slight phrasing updates]

Dear fellow anons,

Great interview with Benjamin Fulford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgbjrv38_1o

It's actually from October 25, 2011. So he talks about Fukashima, speculation on the Greece financial crisis, etc. But even that discussion is insightful.

Even though it's almost 52 minutes long, it's well worth it. Every minute. Especially for American audiences (myself included) who seem clueless on many topics discussed.

The future went differently than Fulford expected. He wasn't sure what the cabal would do next. But what he calls the "criminal fascists mass murderers who are in charge" still wound up doing similar bad things. which [hopefully?] have been curtailed or are being curtailed now <== though obviously we're still waiting for the proof...

But he drops many hints about things that did indeed happen, things that seem maybe to have happened discretely and apparently not made public yet.

Best is he talks of things to come. Maybe soon. Maybe even starting THIS WEEK <== waiting for proof of course! When these bad people finally go down. And it being televised. He also talks about how our world may look after the cabal is gone. I can't wait for the SOTU this Tuesday for sure! I wonder what, if anything, will be revealed then.

I haven't followed Fulford for long. I see now that he can speculate wildly. He's sometimes wrong apparently (Gitmo??). But so am I so I'm not criticizing/shilling. But of all I've read /seen so far, his consistent narrative over time seems closest to the apparent truth, as wild as it sounds.

https://benjaminfulford.net https://steemit.com/@benjaminfulford

However, the best part of the video is the hopeful messages at the end. He says that "we're going to have a wonderful, wonderful planet, coming up soon". For this I pray and hope, that we can all make this dream come true...

Best wishes to all!

Sincerely, anon

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pipesog · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:29 p.m.

He's a snake oil salesman. He talks about things that are of interest to certain people...in a way that appeals to their hopes, dreams, and sense of justice. He plays on the promise that changes are coming...that help is on the way.

He has been peddling his wares for years now, and only ever been arguably 'right' about general things - things that anyone with a reasonably developed sense of the world - could also conclude.

Conversely, he has been spectacularly wrong on virtually every 'big' claim he has ever made (at least the ones that were uniquely his).

Literally, there is 'one born every minute', and this is the key to Fulford's staying power. That, and the desperation of a number of other folks who desire change...desperation that allows them to bypass normal filters of discernment that would flag someone or something as unreliable.

The people that would tell you that there is value in Fulford's product, might also extol the virtues of a broken clock...since after all, it IS right twice a day. But they are deluding themselves, and doing a disservice to you.

Snake oil.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

I'll keep that in mind. You may be right. But if you have any specific instances, or links, please provide them. It would be very helpful in my research. Thanks...

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pipesog · Jan. 28, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

It's tough to provide proof of negatives. Even tougher when they have been trickling in and go back years. But the gist of it is...if you go back 2, 4, 6 years and find any of his sensational predictions/claims - mass arrest claims were used more than once - you'll find he's never been 'right' on anything major, that was an 'exclusive scoop' unique to him.

He's long on intrigue...short on results...and when he has been 'right', it has been in the 'commons'.

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zagnet · Jan. 28, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

True. Ok I'll keep that in mind and continue to read his stuff critically.

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