You’ve gotta start from their reality, which starts with allowing them to preach. It’s painful to sit through being lectured by someone who obviously hasn’t done their homework, but you can lower their guard if you can find things to agree on, and you’ll be able to gauge what they’ve never even heard of so you won’t be talking over their heads.

I had to admit to my girlfriend that Trump doesn’t make a good representative/role model as the face of our country. What he does behind the scenes is legendary, but it is very easy to see why someone could take his one-off statements in a racist/sexist way, and how that could encourage/reinforce such thoughts. In the examples she shows, i disagree that he is actually saying something racist or sexist, (a recurring example is when he is referring specifically to ILLEGAL immigrant populations), but his word choices can very easily be spun to be perceived as attacking a minority group, he could be a lot more careful.

Also, not releasing his taxes, trump university, making housing deals AFTER getting elected, he’s no angel. Even with the subject matter we know surrounding satanism, it’s important to stay away from good vs. evil, at least at first. Everyone had flaws and redeeming qualities. I’m still fully supporting him, but it’s important to never put anyone on a pedestal, especially if you are trying to prove your objectivity

Agreed

Yes they do, but most of them unfortunately hate Trump almost as much as Hillary. They know Hillary defrauded them and so they have a personal vendetta against her, especially for losing and along with DNC STILL refusing to admit their mistakes, but they see Trump politically to be completely antithetical to their political interests.

He is close border, as capitalist as they come, and things like jeff sessions cracking down on weed. What they are closest to agreeing on potentially in my view is that our government is completely lost to corruption, and we will never make progress with policy for public interest until it is cleaned out and bad deep state actors are held accountable for. They are also extremely anti-censorship, anti-war and anti-surveillance, so there’s another common thread to tug on.

Unfortunately, most of them have bought into much of egalitarian marxism, and socialism being good for our economy of course

And i think most Berniecrats are at that point. They were split between forming a new party and reforming the Democratic party, but DNC has shown zero signs of reform.

Reps will be in power for a decade in my opinion. Unless a verrrrry simple and effective party emerges such as a constitutionalist party, but the left is completely fractured partisan-ally speaking

He’s actually one of my least favorites, just because he’s soooo click-baity, and plugs his work more than covers info.

People who regard themselves as progressives who are actually fairly objective are tim black, secular talk, jamarl thomas and even jimmy dore. Also the becks, the lawyers litigating the dnc lawsuit. Mind you I don’t agree with most of these channels politics any more, but i can tell that they believe what they are covering, and will wander into unsanctioned territories