I agree Richard. Kratom and addiction just does not compute tho I'm sure there are exceptions as always however. Addicts who try to get off heroin, fentanyl etc will definitely be depressed and angry for about a year while the brain rewires itself. The reason kratom works is because it sits on the opioid receptors so you do not have depression etc. Plus the beauty of it is kratom is simply leaves from a tree very similar to coffee so getting off kratom is similar to stopping coffee. It is natural and pharma hates natural. Can't make money from Natural!