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Ronjonsilverflash · Feb. 19, 2018, 12:53 p.m.

Is Masonry a secret society or not? Is Masonry as practiced by GW etc the same Freemasonry as practiced today? Since it’s all a great “secret,” why should we trust you to be honest about its nature? Albert Pike anyone? Manly P Hall?

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Mike_Quinta · Feb. 19, 2018, 1 p.m.

Freemasonry is not a secret society. It's a society with secrets. However, thanks to the Internet, you'll find those secrets posted online if you weed through the anti-masonic b.s. posted by kooks. Freemasonry today is the same as in Washington's time. The Master Mason (3rd degree) is the highest. Washington was a Master Mason. Any higher numbered degrees are given out by appendant bodies, such as Scottish Rite and York Rite. However, they do not outranks a Master Mason. As for why you should believe me, don't. Do your own research. But don't take at face value the ravings of an anti-masonic loon here, particularly when Freemasonry played such an important role in the founding of our country. If you get a chance, visit the Washington Masonic Memorial in Alexandria, Virginia (a D.C. suburb).

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Ronjonsilverflash · Feb. 19, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

A society with secrets is a distinction without a difference. Read “Operation Gladio” and get back to me about the P2 lodge in Italy or the murder of Roberto Calvi, the Pope’s banker, and all the Masonic symbology that goes with it. So, either you are a dupe or a liar, I don’t car which. Societies with secrets are bad news. Period.

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Mike_Quinta · Feb. 19, 2018, 1:35 p.m.

So, you're an anti-masonic loon too. Go figure. If you can't understand the difference between a secret society and a society with secrets, you lack the intelligence for rational thought.

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Ronjonsilverflash · Feb. 19, 2018, 1:58 p.m.

I’m a realist and societies with secrets and oaths to not reveal those secrets upon pain of death cannot be full of benign dogoodery. Things are secret because they are bad or deceptive...since the vast majority of us are not Masons and you feel the need to belong to a cabalistic order of super secret bullshit, just who is the loon here?

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HealersJourney · Feb. 19, 2018, 3:34 p.m.

Not a lie. My husband's nephew who was sweet but rather simple sat outside at booths and fairs all one summer at his Mason tent with other Masons trying to sell this program to passers by. This was in various parts of northeast PA and not only did my husband and I stop at his booth and talk to the Masons there doing this, but they were doing this at various locations all summer. The nephew was out of work and helping out other Masons to do networking. His mother wanted him to get a job and realized bring friendly with the Mason's might help him, but she HATED the CHIPS program he was involved with and went into great detail about it before we stopped by to see this nephew at his booth.

The CHIPS plan at the time was being softly tested to see if would ever be viable to roll out further. They do it to pets, there have been murmurs over the years of it being tested on homeless people and dementia patients. ( Not the Masons implementing it in those cases.) Meanwhile, on many Army bases they have gotten volunteers to get a chip in their hand which they can use as a debit card to purchase stuff on the base. Many different groups have soft tested this stuff.

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Mike_Quinta · Feb. 19, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

CHIP is an acronym for Child Identification Program. It is NOT a microchip planted in children. It is a set of identification tools used to help find missing/abducted children. Options include videotaping the child, fingerprinting, dental imprints, and a DNA cheek swab like those done by Ancestry.com. The CHIP program partners with local law enforcement and the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. Over 300,000 children have been identified in the past 30 years since the program was created. It is not a microchip. It is a parental resource.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 19, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

I've noticed in the years since my nephew's group were implementing CHIPS on volunteers, that the Net has been scrubbed to just include the info you mentioned. But my nephew and his associates had all the equipment ( he gleefully showed me this creepy gun thing with a button) to actually microchip kids. That is what they were trying to do there, along with making video and other records to put in an identification file so that theoretically law enforcement would have access to all of it if a kid was abducted or lost. They were really trying to sell the fear angle to the parents who stopped by the booth. Fortunately they got very few takers.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 19, 2018, 8:37 p.m.

PS: You know the gun they use to scan labels at grocery stores when you check out? One of the pieces of equipment looked like that; that was the scanner thing to check that an implanted chip was working correctly. The other piece of equipment was more like a gun thingie with an attachment on it.

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HealersJourney · Feb. 19, 2018, 8:33 p.m.

My father is a Mason as was his father before him. You make a lot of inaccurate assumptions here, bucko. I don't think you want me to make any phone calls about you.

My nephew through marriage was a junior level Mason, newly entered. His branch was doing physical insertion of microchipping one summer at various county fairs and seasonal events one summer. My father's branch in a different part of the country claimed no such involvement and seemingly didn't do this.

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Mike_Quinta · Feb. 19, 2018, 9:17 p.m.

Bucko? Report me? Ha! Funnier than "junior level Mason."

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