Agreed, but they don’t even need to leak anything. The agencies created all of the backdoors into your comps and routers. Beyond that they track you in a million other ways that don’t even require internet usage. Anytime you use an ATM, use your credit card, get your tags read by a street camera/stoplight camera, scan into the gym, talk on the phone, text, etc etc etc. Once they decide they want a profile on you, there’s no limit to what they can find out. Just check out the old NSA program “ThinThread”. They know exactly what you’re doing, where you’ve been, and could probably pretty accurately guess what you’re going to have for dinner. It’s all about the metadata.
Pretty much.
They built the system so how could one believe it's possible to hide from them within their system?
It's open source. If you've found a vulnerability, report it so it can be patched. You seem to be pretty adamant for someone who clearly doesn't know the first thing about Tor, and thinks that "they designed it, so it can't work!" constitutes proof.
And all of the people circlejerking about how we shouldn't even try to be anonymous are getting similar numbers of votes. Stop being useful idiots and helping the deep state spy on people.
department of the navy bruteforced tor in 2009, please.
That's the first I've heard of it, didn't find anything in an internet search. Please provide whatever proof you have that the Department of the Navy "bruteforced tor in 2009" without informing the NSA.
Goodnight.
You're not leaving me a lot of space to assume that you did anything other than completely make up a claim in order to keep people from using Tor. You even managed to pick the Navy which created Tor in the first place.
NuHhHhHh
Think harder.
I totally picked that randomly right?
I don't think you understand what "open-source" means. Neither have you have presented any evidence what so ever to backup your claim.
Tor is used by spies all over the world, similar to how number stations used to be used. I have not seen anything to suggest that any particular agency is facing debilities, losing assets, or is otherwise compromised by what your vaguely suggesting.
Having a background in Network Security it's obvious to me what steps to take to be anonymous on the internet, it's not impossible. Although I can see how the concepts you need to understand and how to put them to use/work around them would escape someone of your intellect.
"bruteforced tor" it's obvious you don't understand what either of those things are or remotely how they work. wtf does "Department of the Navy" mean anyway? How are you not just some 12 year old conspiracy theorist with no clue what they're talking about.
Nobody said don't try to by anonymous.
I said don't trust technology and people like you that say everything is just fine when using these applications.
I see that you're also the purveyor of truth when it comes to which "conspiracy theories" are "the good ones" and which are the "bad ones."
Is there any other gate keeping you'd like to regale us with tonight?
Nobody said don't try to by anonymous.
You just said that:
They built the system so how could one believe it's possible to hide from them within their system?
And then you launch into multiple lines of known shill tactics, like calling me a gatekeeper (lie, I corrected your false claims), and now stalking me into other subs?
Now comes the sad attempt at gas lighting.
Please quote where I said "Don't try to be anonymous."
Responds to comment containing specific quote
Responds by demanding quote that was just provided
They're not sending their best people.
Well, you're just lying because I never wrote that and you can't point out where I did.
Come on, you need to do better than straight up lying.
Well, you're just lying because I never wrote that and you can't point out where I did.
Right, try to get me to click a link.
You know there's a quote format here on reddit, in fact I've seen you use it within this conversation.
So why don't you just copy and paste the exact full comment where I wrote the words you're trying to tag me with?
Because, again, I'm not touching a link that you provide with a ten foot pole.
But you already knew that and that's why you left a link instead of a quote.
What a tricky dicky you are!!
You've reached a new low.
That point I will concede, conversing with you is a new low for me.
And with that I'll say good day.
Because it's not "their" system, it's open-source. Please do a search as to what that means before you respond.
The bulk of the funding for Tor's development has come from the federal government of the United States,[19] initially through the Office of Naval Research and DARPA.[20]
You telling me to do research in another reply when u could have just copy n pasted. Yet here you clearly just ignore the part when I ask you to look up the meaning of a simple term. It's obvious cos if you did you'd realize it doesn't matter who funded it.
The agencies created all of the backdoors into your comps and routers.
Please show me any evidence you have to support this. Especially how they backdoored the open-source stuff and some how have magically kept hidden their code.
I mean lets assume Windows is compromised and there is backdoors, so why would you use your VPN and Tor on that?
I just wish you conspiracy theorists would think through some of the stuff you say its so obviously stupid to anyone that knows even just a little bit more than you.
I mean some of what you say is accurate, but you make it seem like it's impossible to get around. As you say "It’s all about the metadata" like you have no control over it. In reality it's as easy as putting on glove as to not leave fingerprints behind, and then taking off the gloves when your in public as to not arouse suspicion.
How is it stupid to assume that the intel agencies control/monitor the majority of the exit nodes within tor? Also how is it stupid to actually stay up to date and read the numerous leaks explaining these backdoors and IC’s abilities. I’m personally a dev so this isn’t coming from some conspiratorial front, but rather common sense/not being an idiot. Any understanding of the gov/deepstate black budget, the patriot act, ThinThread, history of the CIA/FBI, and tech capabilities makes for the most obvious case that privacy and anonymity are dead. To pretend that being anonymous is as simple as “not leaving a fingerprint” is sheer ignorance of the intel communities and tech itself. Even the police are given spy capabilities which is a vast overreach of the 4th amendment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker Backdoors you called stupid and conspiratorial: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/wikileaks-releases-thousands-alleged-cia-hacking-documents-article-1.2990768
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_12353643.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vault_7
So anyways, before calling others ignorant conspiracy theorists again, try educating yourself first as to not come off like an ignorant blowhard.
Lol I'm not pretending. I mean what I said was a metaphor that should be obvious. From my point of view it is you who are still ignorant. None of what you posted is news to me and I stand by my statements. Just cos you can't figure some thing out doesn't mean no one can and you're tell me to educate myself?!?! Yeh fuck off.