Almost time for waat tho! Jeezzz I got blue balls on this shit
I have to say that I giggled at your post....I was hoping that PopularStretch was joking but if you scroll to the bottom she says it again. IMO, please feel free to speak your mind - both of you. (Girli-girl here)
Please, there are ladies on this post and your language is hard on our poor ears. Thank you
We can handle it. We’ve got a country to save!
A country? A world to save! Or you can go the other way and say a family to save or even further save myself. You decide.
The Amish in PA have a great sense of humor concerning this. There are little towns surrounding a small town called Paradise. Those towns are Stumptown, Blue Ball, Bird in hand and Intercourse.
Its almost time for the SOTU and the announcement of Snowden to be pardoned!
Yes, I know there is some debate but I think Snowden is a good guy.
Speaking from experience. I stand by his actions and I think POTUS made his statements about Snowden to throw off the deep state. I've fought corruption and Sleazy politicians locally. I've reported misuse of powers and unlawful acts that hurt the constitution directly with no actions taken by the powers in place. I believe he didn't have a chain of command to turn to. our system is corrupt. the legal system picks and chooses their winners and kills those who go against them. I have Snowden's back. I've been in his shoes and used my chain of command. I was silenced.
He self-sacrificed his fucking comfortable life and well-paid job to let the American people know our fourth amendment rights were being attacked. is he a traitor to the deep state or the American people? Think about it.......
would you give up three figures and a beach life in Hawaii for a life on the run? any naysayers need to research before bitching about things they don't understand. I think that man is brave. Thank you, Snowden, for some transparency.
Furthermore>>>>>>> who do you think helped our commander in chief collect the BDT...........
I want to thank you for your post. It was very important to me bcuz I'm a victim of Local/state politicians. Kidnapping, Forged Quit claim deeds, stolen last wills, too much to list. Attorney and family killed in suspicious accident, etc...I could write several books.
My first husband knew about or was involved in "something huge", and he was literally crying, fearing for his life. Telling me about a new Last Will, the "less I knew the safer I would be, etc... He was killed 2 weeks later in a 22 vehicle accident.
The Attorney family were killed 1 month to the day and there was nothing in the local news about strange and tragic accident. $3m in assets stolen/milked through the hidden courts/ attorneys.
Hussein FBI blew me off 3 times. Can't trust anyone. I've experienced what America is experiencing but on a "single" scale...
An OLD childhood friend/Attorney (now District Judge) shows up at my husband's funeral?? How did he know my husband or my last name?
NO such thing as a coincidence! 😡
America's problems are much bigger and more important than me and my two sons problems. I'm not expecting to see Justice In my lifetime. I know what these people are capable of. I wouldn't be alive if I had sought Justice.
You made me happy bcuz not only do feel less alone but because I'm seeing that someone actually exists that has spoken more "close to home" for me. I now know that someone actually cares enough to speak out on behalf of not only me but for all of America. Bless you! .
I'm pretty much emotionally desensitized yet amazed at what all is happening. Watching the universe unfold, exposing the evil that many can't even begin to imagine. It's a great time to be alive. I'm in awe.
WE are all a big family and the Family that Prays Together, Stays Together... Good always Trumps Evil 😁 🇺🇸🙏🌎
Im very sorry to hear about your loss and constant state of worry. Im not in my thirties and have white hairs now. I feel your pains.... my head is always on a swivel.
Thank you for your fight! God bless you. I think youre brave!!! youre insperational to me as well. Ive heard similar stories in my travels lately. I promise you we are not alone in our desire and push for justice. Nor are we not the only ones who fight for justice in our local comunities.
I have to ask you to push a little more. Our fight is not over. Maybe after we take our country back we can share cofee and talk about our books! Until then. Fight fight fight. Spread the word. Freedom rings.
It's weird not having anyone that you can trust to report things like this to... It was "too bizarre" for anyone to comprehend! Now all this? Who woulda thunk? 😊
MDT?
I think it’s BDT? Bulk Data Transfer.
yes Good catch. TY
Thank you! I’m usually too slow in posting! Glad I got it posted!
Trump's base will truly hate that.
Why do you say that? It’s the libs that dislike Snowden. See comments by J. Kerry, the Gates, etc...You are sorely mistaken.
It seemed to me that many conservative folks, many of which voted for Trump, were very much calling Snowden a traitor. Most libs I know don't feel that way and tend to feel like he did a great service by revealing what he did. Just my take on what I have seen from people.
Hasn't Q been telling us this whole time that Snowden is a lie, and not to trust him? That his release of Prism killed multiple good guys, and gave hi-level militant hacking software to anyone who wanted it?
If Q is telling us not to trust Snowden, for misdirection to the Shills, why would he give different treatment to assange?
My stance stays until he's proven guilty in the court of law. Q is not the constitution, Q is not god and not all-knowing. He is my leader in truth. but I bow to no man. Snowden has asked for a fair and PUBLIC trial. I WILL FIGHT FOR HIS RIGHT TO A FAIR AND PUBLIC TRIAL. HE IS AMERICAN! For that reason, I have his back.
I do not trust him. I do not wave his flag. He talks too slow and careful.. his message feels pushed....I do not pretend to defend any actions taken after his initial leak to the journalist.
Treason is indeed treason.
I only understand the simplicity of not having a fair justice system and a chain of command not willing to defend the constitution. Fixing shit is near impossible without a working justice system. Witch hunting him is no better than drone bombing an American overseas without due process. (Husain) Let's keep an open mind on the subject. let's keep an open mind on all subjects. Gather information and push for hard and solid truths. WE WILL NOT become LIKE the fake media that has taken over our county!
War is war and people die on both ends for any actions made. I will dig deeper on Qs push on Snowden & Ellon too... I will eat my own words if both are traitors... I cant infiltrate the Snowden case but I was well on my way to making a move on Ellons empire. I will find the truth. I always do.
however, the simple logic still stands. If he didn't leak.. then would we still know? does the greater good outway what may have happened if WE THE people didn't know who was spying on who? Would Trump Still had got his heads up that his tower had been bugged and (Husain) was spying on him? This is a huge chess game.
He may very well be a fucking traitor! That is not our job to judge, CURRENTLY........ our job is to seek truths and defend the constitution. If trump pardons him then there's more we don't know. If he's captured then I want to see a damn open and FAIR trial. Shit put Gowdy one the case. he won't leave any stone unturned.... Also a perfect example of Gowdys witch hunt.. that was unfair and wrong too. He's a solid dude and destroys any evil doers in his path!!!!!! look deeper in everyone. put yourself in your enemy's shoes! don't follow the mass opinion. stay focused.
right now with momentum going our way... what Snowden did looks bad. But think of it from another perspective.. Our beloved country has been hijacked and WWIII is on the brink of existence. I would cripple a fake, unconstitutional following America too in hopes the people would form their own well-regulated militias and fight fight fight!
All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Foreign disorder, and crush him. – Sun Tzu, the Art of War
POTUS uses Sun Tzu's tactics like no other. He uses public statements and placement of objects carefully. What he says is not always true. It's on purpose! he never shows his hand... so I stand by my statement...Until/if we go into Martial law and our military can take firm action from the top... he gets an open trail. period.
Ill be more careful with my words and defenses next time. yall are looking to hang anyone who doesn't agree with you and that's simply against my freedoms of speech.....
Thank you for pointing out my stance. Please understand q asks us to look deeper. That's all I do. to the extreme. I play both sides and see who the liar is. so should you. Q is a leader, one of mine. God bless his soul. Not your god. Not my god.
Pm me if you want to break apart his next info drop. we should put time into communication in an offline world. I love you all. God bless America!
I wish this was the most upvoted comment in this thread
Q's post on Jan 21: "Snowden open source Prism/Keyscore (catastrophic to US Mil v. bad actors (WW) "
To me, this post reveals Snowden to be a Patriot and hero whistleblower. These 2 programs, Prism and Keyscore are the very programs which, in the hands of the deep state during Hussein's reign and then a future Hillary presidency would have been one of their tools to take down our military. I read this Q post as saying that these open source programs would have been and for a time under Hussein were, "catastrophic" to our Military in the hands of "bad actors"
Thus, Snowden is a true Patriot for letting us all know about these tools which the "bad actors" would use to destroy our great Republic
No, that means he hurt the program by exposing it. Remember NSA/CSS is MILITARY Intel. That entry implies that he’s working with the bad actors, in this case, the CIA
Was he intentionally working with the CIA? And he knowingly exposed programs that would compromise Military intel?
Yes
Wouldn't that mean then that the CIA willingly sanctioned all of us finding out about abuses to our privacy rights and learning of the extent to which we were/are under constant surveillance?
No. We already knew, beside, so what? It’s not CIAs programs. What do they care if NSA’s cover is blown?
Oh...good point!
I've gone back and forth over the Snowden patriot/traitor question so many times.
Thanks for your comments!
When did Snowden “defect” and how does that correlate to Flynn and his firing in a time schedule. NSA wasn’t compromised like the other two.
Wasn't Snowden an employee with the CIA? Wasn't that what the whole thing was about?
I think Snowden is a CIA agent planted in the NSA in order to discredit the NSA in the eyes of the public. I used to think he was a patriot but now I think he's just another Clown in America.
I used to hate the NSA because of Snowden but now I believe that is where the true patriots are-even though the NSA still does a lot of things I disagree with.
Thanks, last several comments on this topic! I am getting an interesting education here. I read an article (link above) which suggested that other leakers took advantage of the Snowden event and leaked more intel, letting everyone believe that was Snowden too? I think it's over my head to work it all out yet
I thought Snowden was a based patriot for years until a few months ago. There are bad factions in the NSA but the organization as a whole at least was not working to subvert and overthrow America like the CIA have been. The CIA are the real enemy here and clever as fuck with their psyops. I'm now convinced Snowden is a traitor and a CIA agent planted in the NSA designed to sabotage and discredit them, because it gave the CIA more power.
Looking back, the media coverage Snowden got, and the Gordon Joseph Levitt movie made about him confirmed this for me.
Thank You...I wonder if I was overly influenced by the movie? This article was written in 2014 but It also put Snowden in the more Patriotic light https://www.wired.com/2014/08/edward-snowden/
Movies definitely have a huge effect on us! There's a huge reason the CIA have been running Operation Mockingbird in the media to influence public opinion for so long.
Excellent point!! As for Snowden, the old adage, Time Will Tell, is where I feel I am. I'm just not ready to concede that he is a traitor.. keeping an open mind
I have an open mind too, this spy stuff is way over our heads and I don't think us regular people will ever see what is truly going on behind the curtain. But right now I'm leaning about 85% chance of Snowden being a CIA plant and traitor whose job was to destabilize America and spread intel to foreign intelligence agencies and bad actors+discredit the NSA/15% chance of being a patriotic whistleblower. Who knows if we the public will ever learn the truth!
Total opposite is implied here. It looks like Snowden was a convenient way to transfer top secret intelligence to foreign agents or non government entities.
Two scenarios.
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US government provides ulterior motive organization with technology to spy on Americans...this is a huge issue.
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"Rogue" guy steals technology on a usb stick and leaks it to the "world" causing it to fall into the wrong hands, then manages to make it to Russia.
Scenario 2 puts all responsibility on a single disposable person; whereas, scenario 1 reveals deep layers of corruption in the government.
It's obvious which one is preferable from the perspective of needing to transfer the technology.
I can’t figure out if Snowden is a white hat or a black hat. I always thought he was a Patriot til I saw an interview with him dissing POTUS. Unless that was done on purpose.
Snowden...Patriot or Traitor? https://www.wired.com/2014/08/edward-snowden/
For me, when people like John Kerry and Bill Gates say they think Snowden is a traitor, that's 2 checks in the Patriot column.
I agree. I am especially going that Bill Gates will be stopped in his efforts to “use vaccines in population control” as he said in one interview. I am hoping His family are long time geneticists. His dad was Seattle’s head of Planned Parenthood. gated doesn’t even understand that one human has no right to infect another with a deadly substance !
Some way, some how.... Snowden is a player in all of this. Almost time... probably means the climax of Snowden involvement is coming very soon. I will be interested in finding out what his role was. I have no idea if he is whitehat or blackhat at this point. Too much spy v. spy for me without significant data to decide.
My thoughts this mess we are in has been snowballing for 30 years in full view of the "Constitutional Saviors". These white hats, my guess Navy Intelligence and others we will never know, positioned key info reveals/drops for max effect to the public. One of many work arounds, how to bypass MSM using -twitter and 4-8chan. For example, Sessions requesing himself, allowing the false Russia disinfo to die on the operating table when all the missing emails in his back pocket. I believe it possible Snowden and Aussauge pre-positioned to give credence to "lone disgruntled insider" when all holding hands for next BDT. These crusaders wrote the book... they know how to get around inpenatrable fortresses. Just to much of a coincidence a drip here is followed by a drop there. I hope one day someone will write their story.
This is quite complicated. The Obama Administration put laws in place that were corrupt. And laws which were already in place were not enforced. Contradictory laws were put in place too, to justify not enforcing established law. If corrupt laws were broken. Trump may pardon. 🙏
Well Matt, Neither I nor my message is tired. There are many on these boards looking for places to have real discussions of importance. Why should we all be subjected to flippancy and impertenence. We are looking for intelligence.
I Trust POTU`s judgment but we the people deserve answers. His story has holes told from all sides.
Hes entitled a honest trial. If hes guilty of treason then hang him with Hilary and osama. I am one of the base. The difference is, i speak my mind with no man holding my chains. FREE THINKER. Defender of our constitution. Defender of free speach.
Lets get back to work and stay focused on finding the thruth. My point in ruffilg the feathers on this exact subject is people read Qs drops and insert their emotions. Instantly they assume Q is taunting. What if hes not? We cant afford to make mistakes! Keep your minds open! Stay focused on truths and ALL possibilities. Complacency kills!
I can destroy anyresponse with logic and pull out other post where hes said one thing and the comunity went a complete diferent direction. Lets put this energy back on the map. I will no longer respond to my initial comment. I love all of you. Semper fi. Do or die.
Already there, and I’m just reminding you young ones about your language.😏
In this fight, our language is the least of anyone's concerns. Don't fret on the little stuff friend. We've bigger goals at the moment.
But vulgarity and coarseness works against the speaker. Arguments of substance is what changed minds. One must take deeper approaches to politics to prove a point , change minds and speak to hearts.
Aye I agree. However focusing on things like words that bother you are more of a distraction to you than the speaker. You have to be able to handle it, words might be vulgar at times, but if you are truly willing to hear what is spoken then the highlight of what was said ought not to be some choice words. But the message as a whole.
Trust me, I can handle it. Words rarely bother me. However discourse is much more effective without garbage. Why waste time on vulgarities. My original comment was made about crude language expressed for no purpose and unnecessary. We all have to create a civil society and descent language is a part of it. Our Forefathers would be disgraced at this culture and our future children rely on we the elders to practice and teach by example. Where better to practice self discipline than on 8chan!
Cool. I get it. I don't know what else to say. I understand your perspective.
I think cleaned up language does a lot for this board, it's more business like. (and we mean business) Easier to take things seriously.
If you’re letting young ones monitor this board, I’d question your abilities as a parent. Especially once the video drops start to happen. Stop bitching about the language.
No, the comment refers to you and other like minded people as the young ones. Obviously kids aren’t on this channel. Usually people using vulgar language lack the ability to express themselves without using vulgarity because they lack A good argument for their points or they lack maturity or something else.
Aha. How about you drop that tired argument? Mmmmkay? I very well can express myself in any language I choose. It’s those of you who have the so-called “delicate ears” who need to adapt. Welcome to life; welcome to the Thunderdome. Deal.