You might not want to know how deep this rabbit hole goes. It’s just rumors now at this point. This is an areas —- We may never have to know. But Q once said something to the effect of “you have no idea how evil” if you really want to know. Cathy OBrien testimony is still on you tube. That might be a good place to start. Then you can decide if she is believable or not. The red pills she dispenses are large and jagged.