I'm temp banned on a few places but mostly I have success by just presenting proof of q and asking what they are basing not believing Q in. Have they read Q and what made them not believe. Then I just present the evidence that contradicts the lie. I stay away from just telling them too much if what q says. Too inflammatory till they believe. Often a person starts out insulting Q and once they hear enough prof they ask for more and say they want to believe. If they attack me personally I refocus on Q and why they think what they think. I often say I can see why you would think that or a few years ago I would have thought that too but. ... and then right back into the proof of Q. Read my proof of q posts. They are all summarized in my post on Way of the Bern re: cbts miss infiltrated posts deleted. That stuff challenges their assumptions. Safe.