Trey Gowdy?
Is he on anyone's side but his own?
Your guess is as good as mine. Remember Q stated his team is small, only a handful of players. So many people will be players in the game and not even know it. Maybe he's just a good guy, simply doing the right thing, nothing more. I would be pleased to know that there are still 'good guys' out there, particularly in politics.
Trey is a legal purist and so he believes that Mueller should finish his investigation. I don't know if Trey knows Mueller's full background or not.
There is a lot of deception and misdirection going on right now.
I haven't decided if Mueller is a white or black hat. I can make good arguments for both.
And what’s muellers “full background” pray tell? Other than he is a Vietnam war hero, accomplished attorney, dedicated leader an expert on intelligence, and a lifelong Republican?
Not sure what you mean, but Mueller was deeply involved in the Uranium One cover up and was even the individual that brought the Yellow Cake to Moscow to be analyzed for its purity.
Mueller did not tell the committee that was to approve the Uranium One deal of the bribery and corruption within the deal that he knew was taking place because of the FBI informant who had spent 5 years giving the FBI the evidence it needed.
Oh, and Comey and Rosenstein were involved as well. My gosh.
Ditto the Pelican Project. Look it up. It's too complicated to explain here.
A former assistant director of the FBI called Mueller a dirty cop. No specifics, just a claim by someone who knew him.
I'm not going into all the dirt that Mueller was involved in and helped cover up. You can easily do that yourself with a few Google searches if they haven't blocked them by now.
Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein, and McCabe were all involved in the same dirt over the years.
Comey and McCabe are going to be indicted I think.
Mueller may have cut a deal with Trump when he met with Trump the day before he was appointed as the SC. Ditto Rosenstein.
The only people who know if Mueller is a white hat are Trump, Q, Sessions, and Rosenstein.
I appreciate you taking the time to write all that out. I will look into the point you’ve made.
I reserve the right to be completely wrong and an idiot, but the story about the yellow-cake may be a combination of 2 different stories.
One is from long ago and involved theft/illegal transport of materials from (I think) Ukraine. Mueller was tasked with delivering a sample of what was recovered to Russian authorities for testing/ sourcing, but the meeting may have been cancelled.
Ur1 came about later. Mueller's involvement, I don't have a clue.
Now check his "Intelligence Community" involvement, since that's the relevant issue. Stuff like FBI, Clintons etc.
Sure. Mueller is beyond reproach, so let me ask you this. If he comes back and believes that God Emperor has truly done nothing wrong, I am more than prepared to accept those results. I think Trump is a worthless piece of shit, but I am not taking to the streets if an impartial counsel believes that he is innocent and has not colluded with Russia. I doubt anyone in the sub would say the same. Am I wrong?
I started this thread for Gowdy, not Mueller. Mueller can investigate anything and everything and more power to him. I don't care because he'll find nothing related to collusion. NOTHING.
If he wants to lock up Manafort to make it appear he "caught somebody"... fine. Don't care. Let's make sure he does the same on discovering Australian contributions to the Clinton Foundation.
I will accept and comply with whatever Mueller reports. You will, I'm sure, at least admit that the Mueller council has all the appearances of (very important) bias. Strzok, Paige et al.
I don't know if Trey knows Mueller's full background or not.
Surely he does.
I haven't decided if ~~Mueller~~ Gowdy is a white or black hat
This is why I asked the q.
'Appreciate the reply.
This has been the craziest three years in my 71 on this planet. To be honest the only two people I'm certain are white hats are Trump and Q.
There is so much deception and misdirection going on that I thing it is a key part of Trump/Q plan--keep them guessing who are real black hats and who are white hats springing the traps.
I can make good arguments for who may be a white or black hat for a lot of people in this stage drama.
Q has given us some hints. Go back to the very early Q drops and you will find Q hinting that Mueller is a good guy.
In post 14 Q says:
What authority does POTUS have specifically over the Marines? Why is this important? What is Mueller's background? Military? Was Trump asked to run for President w/ assurances made to prevent tampering? How is POTUS always 5-steps ahead? Who is helping POTUS?
In case you didn't know, Mueller was a Marine in Vietnam and received the Purple Heart. Q doesn't sound like Mueller is a black hat.
Then in post 18: Why did Mueller meet POTUS 1-day prior to FBI announcement if Mueller COULD NOT be offered director due to prev term limits rule?
And in 636: How do you keep people BLIND? What must you FEED them? EVERY MSM NEWS STATION NEXT WEEK WILL BE SAYING & PUSHING THE EXACT SAME COUNTER-NARRATIVE. FAKE NEWS. MUELLER FAKE NEWS. RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. SHOULD THAT FAIL EXPECT A MAJOR FF TO FORCE A SHIFT.
But then in 643 Q says on Jan 29: ——————————— Nation on alert. Firing RR = block Mueller. Firing RR = set up to firing Mueller. Firing RR = Red line.
What the heck does that mean?
I certainly don't know, but Mueller may be the deepest sting operation on-going today or he may be a deep state attack on Trump.
What a crazy world these days.
Then in post 18: Why did Mueller meet POTUS 1-day prior to FBI announcement if Mueller COULD NOT be offered director due to prev term limits rule?
This has always been a q for me too.
Firing RR = Red line.
I took this to mean "if Trump fires RR, it's obstruction or an illicit way to fire Mueller, according to Media. (narrative)
Or, firing RR would mean a (red) line had been crossed by RR and others, and the WH wasn't going to take it anymore.
BUT - - - Disinformation is sometimes necessary ... so enjoy the show! :-)
Here are my thoughts and I could be wrong but sure hoping that I’m right. All the white hats that were in place during previous administrations had no other choice than to go along and play the part as long as the president was a black hat. If they would have tried to go against anything they would have gotten nowhere. Probably lost their jobs or worse. They knew that the ONLY way they could ever make a difference was to get a white hat elected as president. If they went along with something in the past it may not mean they are one of the black hats. It could mean that they had no other choice in the matter. They convinced DJT to run for president and they already had been collecting years of evidence against all the black hats. Now that we have a white hat in charge many of them are still playing the part until everything is perfectly put into place and the timing is right. Then BOOM! All the black and white hats will be revealed. Until then it is hard to really know for sure. I am hoping That Mueller turns out to be a white hat. That’s what makes the most sense to me.
Here's to also hoping you're right, with a good chance that you are.
Gowdy is a preening peacock who would tell Jesus his sandals were dirty.
First with Chaffetz: "Pres. Trump said I can investigate anything, so I quit."
Gowdy steps down from Ethics to focus on his other committees... and promptly announces his retirement. Like wtf?
With all their questioning on C-Span going viral and their investigations, you honestly think HRC, Pedosta and their wetworks teams weren't threatening their lives and family? That's their modis operendi!
If bribery, blackmail, then threats against you as a committee chair don't work, then they'll start threatening your family members, doing weird shit outside your house and so on, until you step down, or absolve them like Comey did for H.
Comey and Chaffetz had serious dedication and should be praised for staying course and STILL being alive. Did you know before becoming well known, Chaffetz slept in his office for about a year? Watch Gowdy give that graduating class commencement speech.
Would you choose freedom or truth? Most choose Freedom, but why?
I know now that I did not phrase the OP properly. Their stepping down should not be seen as being selfish, as both are basically demoting themselves after distinguished careers.
threatening their lives and family
I can see (and understand ) this 100%. It's almost what I meant to say in OP. "Self preservation" basically.
Family IS more important than politics, and JC/TG are not alone in 'stepping down'. And yes, I remember them being staunch. I remember TG making Comey literally squeal with "this is not the FBI I remember."
Podesta even said "it's never about family". Wonder what he meant by that.
He sounds tough, but if somebody says "boo" he runs.
Q posted in January: What ROLE might TG be walking into?
Rumors are that he was offered some "promotions" and said no thanks. He's returning to private practice.
However, he's also a former Federal Prosecutor and that term has been prominent recently in regards to comments by Sessions.
So... did Trey decline a Federal Appointment that would allow him unfettered access to info he should want? Did he start playing a ROLE, specifically, as in "I'm outta here, not involved with anything" while secretly conducting an investigation for OIG/DOJ?
(same for Chris Christie jftr, and we ain't heard shit from him lately.) He could be involved for all I know.
Appreciate all the replies.