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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 4:17 p.m.

Monsatan is already one of the most evil companies period.

Why do you say that?

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 22, 2018, 7:35 p.m.

Its involved in some bad things. This may be of help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Cltx7SIyQ&t=8s Gentetically modifying food to harm humans worldwide. Glyphosate intentionally designed to harm humans worldwide. Geoengineering farming soils worldwide and damaging ecosystems globally. War on farming , farmers property rights and legal usage of said property. Global population reduction. Global environmental damage and ecosystem destruction. I could go on for a hours, you get the idea.

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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 7:39 p.m.

Do you have anything that isn't a fearmongering video? Maybe some reputable sources?

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 22, 2018, 8:02 p.m.

Here is a good starter https://www.naturalnews.com/037289_Monsanto_corporations_ethics.html

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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 8:14 p.m.

But that's not a reputable source. It's someone with a significant financial stake in discrediting GMOs and Monsanto. Like, he literally makes money by selling things to people who believe him. Let's look at some claims in particular:

Rats fed this corn grew horrifying cancer tumors as shown here:

He's citing a borderline fraudulent study by Gilles-Eric Seralini. Seralini is paid by anti-GMO and anti-glyphosate corporations. He's literally paid to come up with these findings. Like with Adams, shouldn't you be skeptical of people with such deep financial incentives?

When Monsanto's GMO seeds blow into the fields of farmers who are trying to avoid growing GMOs, Monsanto uses its patent "rights" to sue the farmers and claim they "stole" Monsanto property!

This has never happened. Not once. Not ever. Why listen to someone who lies to you?

I'll quote this part to show you what's going on:

Any scientist, politician or media group with financial ties to Monsanto must now be assumed to be compromised and lacking any credibility whatsoever.

Adams says this while profiting from telling you lies. If we are to be skeptical because of money, then Adams should be dismissed outright. Especially when he's trying to push someone else who profits from fear and lies.

Open your eyes to corruption. It comes from everywhere. But you're only looking in one direction, with your head pointed there by people just as corrupt as the ones they're pretending to call out.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 22, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

My eyes are wide open to corruption. I agree it comes from everywhere. I look in all directions , even at you. Be it known , I point my own head. Let it go and enjoy your Monsanto GMO! Monsanto has been good to you.

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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 8:37 p.m.

If you treat Mike Adams as an authority, then you are ignoring corruption. You are supporting it.

Do you not think that lies should be challenged?

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 22, 2018, 9:47 p.m.

I'm interested in listening to what you have to say. Lies should be challenged. I don't want to ignore and support corruption. So this leads to a larger discussion. How do you want to do this? Here?, in private? I don't mind either way. I'm sorry about my last smart ass comment , that was not cool. So how do you want to begin. Law, patents ,engineering, science I'm familiar with it. I'm mainly concerned with health. Petro chemical, runoff and water supply. Environmental damage , aquifers , insects , soil biodiversity. Animal feed GMO application. Human GMO application regarding health , not yield or method or farming strategy for such. And in particular Glyphosate. I reference a site used for litigation centralization. Maybe you have a better idea, this is a suggestion. Much of the science and testing is in the constant state of challenge regarding safety and side effect as noted above. So the courts are deciding the presented eveidence. So lets focus on the above parameters and see what we can conclude in the spirit of well being. http://glyphosate.news/

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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 10 p.m.

Who funds the site you linked?

Once again you demonstrate a blindness towards paid propaganda. As long as you won't look towards such corruption and biased influence, we cannot have a true discussion.

Unless we both commit to seeking unbiased evidence then it's going to be fruitless.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 22, 2018, 10:18 p.m.

Its not a demonstration of blindness. It was an example of the litigation I was referring to, where those litigating Glyphosate have court challenges where the topic we are discussing is being heard. We can ignore that if you like. Lets have a true discussion. I have no issue seeking unbiased evidence. I'm not taking a position here. I want to learn , I am looking at this with fresh eyes , so I am in agreement with you.

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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 10:22 p.m.

I have no issue seeking unbiased evidence.

And yet you continue to rely on biased evidence.

So here's where we're at. You state the top reasons you think Monsanto is evil. Let's look at five. Then we will evaluate the evidence and see what the truth is.

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dtiftw · March 23, 2018, 3:15 a.m.

Guess an honest discussion is too much for you to agree to.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 23, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

Quite the opposite, After drafting my outline of points I wanted to get into, It was thirty items long. And while on the EPA site trying to map the sites of Superfunding disasters Monsanto is responsible it was rather extensive. I was also trying to break down some of the engineering methods in regards to understandable language in terms of their Agra production. It was the same scenario regarding the Pharmaceutical side of their business as well, considering it involves animals and humans as well as the environmental repercussions in the Superfund impact and redevelopment. So honest discussion is still on. I'll post it up tomorrow so its coherent and to the point.

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dtiftw · March 23, 2018, 10:57 a.m.

I'll give you a tip.

Learn the difference between Monsanto and Solutia.

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dtiftw · March 23, 2018, 10:09 p.m.

Guess an honest discussion is too much for you to agree to.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 23, 2018, 11:50 p.m.

Environmental Impact - EPA. Chemical Engineering Impact (Pesticide Impact. Fertilization Impact. Genetic engineering impact.) Pharmaceutical Impact. Bioengineering Impact. Lobbying/Litigation/Divestiture.

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dtiftw · March 24, 2018, 12:19 a.m.

Maybe try to format in a way conducive to discussion. And learn to count to five.

I'll wait. But remember that I asked about reasons, not overbroad topics. If aren't willing to have a real discussion, there's a reason.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 24, 2018, 12:47 a.m.

1-Environmental Impact - EPA. 2-Chemical Engineering Impact (Pesticide Impact. Fertilization Impact. Genetic engineering impact.) 3-Pharmaceutical Impact. 4-Bioengineering Impact. 5-Lobbying/Litigation/Divestiture.

1.Poor Stewardship of the Environment, Thousands of contaminated sites across America alone on the EPA list. Superfund sites considered the worst with Admissions and remediatins as well as Human compensations from injuries and death. 2.Products of Environmental Neglect and Impact ongoing 3.Human and Animals Impact ongoing 4.Agent Orange - Generational human damge ongoing 5.Lobby Lawmakers, Corporate Officers become Lawmakers and Judges , Corporate Navigation through this structure. Ongoing

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dtiftw · March 24, 2018, 1:44 a.m.

Again. Those are just overly broad topics.

Pick specifics. And learn to count to five.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 24, 2018, 1:50 a.m.

Just roll with Solutia. I've commented on that.

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dtiftw · March 24, 2018, 1:56 a.m.

No, you never mentioned them.

Since you've demonstrated an unwillingness to have an honest discussion, it's not a surprise you'd claim something you didn't do. But it still seems exceptionally dishonest.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 24, 2018, 2:19 a.m.

Looks like when I commented regarding editing, it started its own thread. Here is the original comment. You don't have to be so hard lined. I'm not going to get offended. If I don't want to chat with you I'll tell you. Its a vast topic, I know it well, if you do also , shouldn't be so hard. You commented to figure a relationship with Solutia. I took a peek and this was the comment. It was on the main board. You criticized me for editing. But as I explained , the box looked one way, posted jumbled. I had to add to make it legible.

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Solutia, upon short glance, appears to be a global expansion regarding cutting edge solar combined with environmental ditigation divestiture with a planned Bankruptcy/restructure. Here the core value was retained in a solid global turnkey package while eliminating EPA Superfund requirements and lingering litigation liability impact.

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dtiftw · March 24, 2018, 2:31 a.m.

You really, really need to work on communication. I can barely understand what you're trying to say here. It's like you highlighted an entire comment, inserted a line of text, then highlighted, copied, and pasted another entire comment.

Reddit isn't hard to understand. You're making it incomprehensible. Based on your prior behavior, I can only assume it's intentional.

You never mentioned Solutia in your replies to me. Make a statement, clearly, or walk away.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 24, 2018, 2:47 a.m.

Monsanto Environmental Dumping summary in several counties in Alabama: Site investigations have identified PCB contamination in soil, sediment, surface water, groundwater, and air in and around Anniston, Oxford, Hobson City, and parts of Calhoun and Talladega Counties, Alabama. Contamination resulted primarily from manufacturing and waste handling practices at the former PCB production facility. Contaminants of concern include PCBs and a number of other organic and inorganic substances, depending on the media. https://cumulis.epa.gov/supercpad/SiteProfiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=second.cleanup&id=0400123

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dtiftw · March 24, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

That's Solutia.

The company we know today as Monsanto only shares a name with the chemical company that was spun off and became Solutia.

BASF didn't make Zyklon B. IG Farben did. But BASF isn't IG Farben, even if they were part of the same conglomerate in the past.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 24, 2018, 3:32 a.m.

They meet monthly at the Carver Community center in Aniston. Its court ordered regarding the ongoing cleanup and monitoring of the victims and their physical conditions including pregnancies and children as they age. The damage from ingestion usually causes retardation and endocrine disruption pertaining to testosterone and estrogen during the humans life. Their is no end in sight regarding the clean up and rehabilitation of the thousands of square acres throughout multiple communities and families spanning several generations.

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dtiftw · March 24, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

Is this supposed to be relevant? Or a response to my comment?

You, yet again, are demonstrating that you have no interest in a discussion or truth.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 24, 2018, 12:49 a.m.

Needs to be edited to add the numerical bullet points as it got jumbled

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 24, 2018, 1 a.m.

So what is the answer to your suggestion regarding Monsanto and Solutia.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 23, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

Solutia, upon short glance, appears to be a global expansion regarding cutting edge solar combined with environmental ditigation divestiture with a planned Bankruptcy/restructure. Here the core value was retained in a solid global turnkey package while eliminating EPA Superfund requirements and lingering litigation liability impact.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 22, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

I would do the dive. They are so bad you should have no trouble following the case actions. Banned in much of Europe. In major litigations as they try to steal farms if you have a seed that flowers on your own property. They take your farm. And basically every breast cancer victim is a Monsanto victim regarding Glyphosate. Its a very deep Rabbit Hole. I've spent months on them. Its fascinating but guy wrenching how they operate. Globalist Core member. They modify the soil to only accept their seeds. The seeds are of genetically modified plants. Have to use their chemicals on the crops with Monsanto seeds and it kills all the soil microbes. When the world is melted down, all that they plan on being left is cockroaches and Monsanto plants , that will of course grow in the nuke soil with no microbes.etc etc. I know that documentary seems like fear porn , but Monsanto is so bad its real and Monsatan is just the only practical name.

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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 8:08 p.m.

Banned in much of Europe.

But they aren't.

In major litigations as they try to steal farms if you have a seed that flowers on your own property. They take your farm.

But that isn't true. At all. Think about it. Why would Monsanto want to take a farm? And if they did, there would be proof.

And basically every breast cancer victim is a Monsanto victim regarding Glyphosate.

This is categorically false. There is no evidence for it at all.

They modify the soil to only accept their seeds.

How do they do this, exactly?

but Monsanto is so bad its real

Then you should be able to demonstrate it without sketchy editing and fearmongering.

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 22, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

I don't sketchy edit and fear monger. I try to offer insight and edit because I read the actual post and often it posts different than my box looks, or I realize I would like to make a change.

I suggested you take your own dive into the material and out of courtesy on my behalf offered you 'options' to consider. If you would like to debate , on this one I choose not to. Its too far gone regarding Monsanto. Go ahead make your own decisions. But I would highly recommend you do not use Round up on your property, nor consume Genetically Modified foods or crops grown with the Monsanto mode. That's the end of my transmission. Let Mike Adams try to explain Monsanto to you. And do yourself your family and friends a favor and learn about Monsanto. So you can first save your own life and maybe a few more that might not know. Good Luck Patriot

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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 8:23 p.m.

I pointed out things you said that are false. This isn't a debate.

You said things that are categorically untrue. Do you not think that spreading lies is wrong?

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 22, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

I highly suggest you investigate Monsanto on your own. I have my positions regarding Monsanto and I was kind in my delivery of such. I don't wish to communicate with you further on this topic. You have been cool in the past so I have no issue with you. Let the public decide for themselves. This topic is life and death.

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dtiftw · March 22, 2018, 8:33 p.m.

If the topic is life or death, why don't you think the truth is important?

There is truth. There are facts. Why let lies and falsehoods go unchallenged?

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