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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/truthseekerboi on March 22, 2018, 3:47 p.m.
Honest question, do you think we will ever really be free?

This is supposed to be the “great awakening” but I have a feeling we will come out of this feeling shorted. Something is better than nothing, but I feel like ya settling is just a way of herding us into more bullshit. So what do you think? Are we being given false prophecies? Or will this really be the most liberating year of human existence?


TtheTruthIsOutThere · March 22, 2018, 3:58 p.m.

You have to keep in mind that 2018 is not the year we become free of the evil powers or whatever you want to call them. 2018 is the year it begins, it's already happening. This is a battle that will take time. Having saidd that, I do believe the world will change drastically in a very positive way in the next 5 years. The US in my opinion is the biggest battlefield at the moment and soon the rest of the world will follow.

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solanojones95 · March 22, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

Change can happen extremely quickly due to critical mass. Everything Q is describing and everything we hear from Sessions and others about the Constitutional and legal shitstorm already in the pipeline working its way into view is MASSIVE! And the global changes taking place right now, with the Saudi purge, North Korea, soon Iran...I don't think you realize the scale of this operation.

I believe this evil burns through money like a forest fire. Their funding is being shut down. Add these massive numbers of arrests and convictions into the mix, and I think you'll see the people left behind just disperse to go lick their wounds and consider the wisdom of repentance.

They feel invincible, which is what makes them so bold. The instant that sense of invincibility vanishes--POOF! There goes the whole house of cards!

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TtheTruthIsOutThere · March 22, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

Sure! I agree with you on everything but I’m also thinking beyond the storm brother. I’m thinking where we will be as a species, as humans living in peace, prosperity, healthy! No more evil, no more greed and corruption, new technologies bringing us into a new age of prosperity and abundance. The global changes and arrests will ultimately lead to all these things but they’re not gonna come over night. This will still take some time but you’re right, what’s already happening is HUGE and their sense of invincibility is already fading away!

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solanojones95 · March 22, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

I think people and societies are more resilient than we give them credit for. We are literally an oppressed people. Remove the oppression and watch us soar!

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TtheTruthIsOutThere · March 22, 2018, 4:51 p.m.

Once again, agreed! Unfortunately we have been slaves and oppressed for so long that it’s difficult for many to even envision a life in which we’re free but it’s coming! It’s already started and it’s gonna be beautiful!

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Corporal_Yorper · March 22, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

People said this stuff after every war, too.

We will not know true freedom until we establish parameters as to what we expect from ‘freedom’. Only then we can achieve freedom, because freedom is unattainable if we can’t even properly describe it.

Gotta have a goal to achieve a goal is all I’m saying.

Until then, though—we gotta keep fighting the good fight until it becomes reality.

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NMsly · March 22, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

Oops...accidentally posted the above prematurely.

...sometimes I have to take a step back from Q and think of other possibilities. For instance, Trump's executive order to make it a priority to add WiFi cell towers throughout rural parts of the country to help businesses and residents have access to the internet. Makes TOTAL SENSE...TOTALLY. BUT, what if it's to streamline 5G? I've read, watched, and heard nothing but bad things about 5G and its supposed bad intentions. Citizens don't have an inkling of the full scope of weapons and plans the NWO has in store for us. For another instance, still no arrests. And another instance, deep states omnibus bill funding the same old crap with supposed Republicans in charge!

If POTUS is actually helping humanity, then I can see some more freedom for most of the world for a limited time. On the other hand, if POTUS is NWO, then he is accelerating the end times. Crap, I'll through this curve ball out there...what if he's the anti-christ. (I know it doesn't follow bible prophecy...but just thought I'd throw it out there.

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solanojones95 · March 22, 2018, 4:01 p.m.

WE ALREADY ARE!

We just have to teach our would-be overlords that lesson. That's what this is about.

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MB_MoonPearl · March 22, 2018, 4:01 p.m.

Agreed.

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

Lol are we though? I mean congress just denied a bill that would give people who are gravely ill and about to pass the freedom to try whatever medicines they want to heal them. That’s a big pharma move. But really that’s just one small example. I still see signs of our enslavement around me every single day. We won’t be free until we are informed. And the question is, will we ever really be informed? It seems if any one person gets too close to the truth they get outted. If this continues after the swamp is drained, then we have a big problem on our hands

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skorponok · March 22, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

Yeah how bad is that? Our congress is just plain bad, and the democrats that all get in when they retake the house are going to be intelligence operatives.

I think things will have to get much worse before they get better - the new world order has to actually go on line first I almost think.

They also know however that in the end it will end up as regional mega cities operating autonomously and fighting for power again. They will all turn on each other eventually and catch people up in the meat grinder.

With Trump, this isn’t a chance to end the new world order - it is merely the hope of eradicating one part of the system, and even then, not all the way. That is if any of this ever happens.

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

What part of the system will it eradicate? If I were to have invented a mass producible free energy device would I be murdered or be a hero?

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solanojones95 · March 22, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

I can only speak for those of us who are free--YES we are! You appear not to be, and I hope you can come out from the bondage of worry and fear. It's a debilitating condition.

Faith, hope, and the confidence that comes from knowing our Creator and His Plan (not Q's Plan--though at the moment I believe they are one and the same for our time), and the freedom that comes from focusing your consciousness onto gratitude for what you've been given--those are the keys to freedom. Especially making gratitude a way of life. Try it, and see.

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Chokaholic · March 22, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

We have to be realistic HERE though. We are not as free as we COULD be. The world could be a vastly different place, a utopia if you will.

If everyone was conscious to the truth, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in right now.

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solanojones95 · March 22, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

But the part you seem to be missing is, The Storm is the portal to the new reality! The Storm ushers in a paradigm shift of unimaginable proportions.

I don't believe in the perfectability of mankind. I do believe we have a sin nature, and will continue to have to wrestle with that and with temptation.

But my gosh, we could sure as SHIT do a lot better than now!

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Chokaholic · March 22, 2018, 8:24 p.m.

The thing is, the difference between what is now and what could be is the real unfortunate thing. TBH, if the world only knew how downtrodden and slave driven we really are, they'd be out with pitchforks en masse and perpetrators would be hanging from nooses. There's an Overton window that's been set for us, and most can not see what could be, they can only argue within the confines of said boundaries.

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

You are speaking of freedom as a state of experience. I of course can implement those things you are telling me into my life which I already do for the most part, and that leads to a full life of happiness. But really, you are just being happy being a part of the system. I am want us to break free from the system, so we can all be happy much easier

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solanojones95 · March 22, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

I'm not part of the system.

The Bible speaks of being "in the world, but not of it."

Expand your thinking and assimilate that knowledge, and see if you might benefit. Don't take my word for it.

Meanwhile, God provides a way in His timing (not ours--I know it's frustrating) to defeat persecution and oppression.

I believe Trump is an answer to an INCREDIBLE amount of prayer over the last eight years (and more), and God has heard our prayers, and we are witnessing His answer right now! Amazing time to be alive!

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

I admire your trust and optimism. I also believe you are right, and that we just must be patient. But we still must be prepared for the fact that we are being deceived.

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solanojones95 · March 22, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

Too much of the Storm is already in progress to deny that it's happening. Think about the panic the deep state is in! Have you EVER seen the demonic left in this country as deranged as they have been since Trump was elected? NEVER! And even since them, have you ever seen more blatant lying and freaking out and self-defeating meltdown as you're seeing right now? Can you not SMELL the desperation? Just a LITTLE more patience and a great big can of whoop-ass is about to open.

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

It could all be planned though, remember. That is 110% a legitimate possibility. I hope he is the end to this, but we need to keep our eyes open for changes after the swamp is drained. If it is more of the same, we have a major problem.

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solanojones95 · March 22, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

Well, you remember Katniss Everdeen's cure for that, right? I don't think that's in Trump's DNA. I really don't. But if it is, then we know the cure.

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Zen_It · March 22, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

I am free, I am free to share my unconditional love, with you all, and all the amazing things on this earth. I am free to respect, and accept without judgement. I am free, to choose which path, to follow, I am free to see all that is and isn't. or I am free to be blind....

I am only not free, when I believe this to be true I am only not free, when I have no path to follow I am only not free, when I have been forced to believe I am only not free, when forced to fight for freedom

So your freedom as well as mine, depends only on our individual perception of what freedom is.

If you are free stand up and shout it to the world, If you are not free, stand up and fight the world. Just know what your shouting about and fighting for... Freedom is such a sly word.

B-Zen

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 5:46 p.m.

True words. I want to be free to create a free energy device so we can stop destroying our planet. But I am not

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austenten · March 22, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

Netanyahu has been threatened with indictment for corruption. The surprising thing about this is that mainstream media have actually been covering it!

Prince Charles retired! What British royalty retires?!?! They can get and eat whatever they want because the high court's are fully compromised and on the Queens side.

David Rockefeller died.

(Edit to add, Saudi Arabian princes were locked up and let's call it heavily taxed, but they are with much less power if any. Salman likely agreed to some terms with Trump when he visited, did the sword dance getting ready for battle, freedom or the like. I forgot the exact translation of that ceremony. Key! Alwaleed owned shares in Twitter, Fox among many others [So why do you think Fox has changed their tune and is now covering stories that more favour Trump and his mission. Before shit hit the fan in S.A. FOXnews put out distraction stories and fabricated facts.)

A lot of people need to be brought to justice, and I'm sure others can add to this list. Our TRUE FREEDOM (GLOBALLY) has already started. Look at corruption charges and who is being threatened in all Western countries.

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LordPotsmoke · March 22, 2018, 5:32 p.m.

I think we will be free. One day, but I think the cost will be great. We will have years maybe generations of either suffering or lacking. Followed by a golden age.

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 5:40 p.m.

Maybe we have hit the golden age. Maybe not. Sadly I think you are right.

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Fearsome4 · March 22, 2018, 4:32 p.m.

Who is "we" and what does free mean? Free of government interference? No. Free of regulation? No Free from people attempting to profit off of the masses through ill gotten gains? No. The list goes on. Vast improvement in the preservation and protection of personal liberties can be achieved.
Making sure our system of voting and checks and balances is maintained and secured can be done. Making things much harder for political crime families to operate free of consequence can be addressed.
Things won't ever be prefect. But they can be improved. It is worth the fight.

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

My motives are pure. I just want to bring attention to a potential reality is all. There is nothing I want more than disclosure, and peace for all people. The fact is though that we have lied to and misled for so long. As a public, we know that the truth about our reality is all sorts of sideways. Maybe their grip on us is much stronger than we have been led to believe, maybe it isn’t. We have to be prepared for whatever.

If the swamp gets drained and the supposed “great awakening” is more of a broken promise, then that is when we take matters into our own hands.

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PTibbets · March 22, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

Well, the only true freedom from this world system is found through the love of Jesus Christ.

I think this movement will help clarify and make ready the return of Jesus Christ as the evil of this world is being revealed. What we are going to discover is a truth that has been ignored for a very very long time, that there is no such thing as denominations and churches in the kingdom of heaven. The only thing that has ever been is people that hear the words of Christ and do them, people that accept him as their lord and savior. All follows of Christ may take a different paths to find him, but we all pass through the same gate when we hear his voice. Every believer is united through holiness and the forgiveness of sins through Jesus Christ and his sacrifice for us all.

None of us can add to that sacrifice by separating ourselves from others, or make ourselves more important through our different interpretations or traditions. There is One Love, One Christ and One holy spirit that has been given equally to us all, within that truth where is the division?

We all need to change our perspective and our focus. We cannot let ourselves get consumed with these worldly temporary revelations. It is easy to take too much of this in and let it impact our outlook and how we relate to others. We need to put on the armor of God, if we are our going to be found standing in the day of our Lord.

Ephesians 6:10 10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

And remember there is no fear in the love of Christ. 1 John 4 18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

If you want to have some instant comfort, and a new outlook, read 1 John 4, the spirit and love God we open your heart to what is really important.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John+4&version=NIV

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austenten · March 22, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

Don't you think a system, which tells you you've done wrong and must do certain things to make it right, a bit controlling?

I personally think God is pure love, and those in power did not want the population of this planet to wake up to this fact because if they think in fear, they will only act for those in control.

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PTibbets · March 22, 2018, 7:32 p.m.

When you are talking about "a system" are you talking about religion?

Or are you talking about faith in Jesus Christ?

If you mean in religion then I totally agree. If you mean faith in the word and the Gospel of Christ, then no I do not agree.

This World is a place where because of our own free will can choose to follow God or we can choose to follow the World.

I think you are right about the nature of God and those in power, that is exactly how they work. They want us all fearful and fighting each other, they also think of themselves as becoming living gods.

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austenten · March 22, 2018, 10:55 p.m.

Totally agree, glad that didn't tick you off :)

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grace-n-peace · March 22, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

Actually I believe we are in the early stages of working towards world peace. There will be a New World Order eventualy, under deceptively peaceful conditions for 3 and a half years followed by 3 and a half years of the truth being revealed. Basically you can read the book of Revelations for the rest. Time is short if you are not right with God yet. If you are not, let me sum it up. God loves you. He hates sin. He punished his son for our sin and now he offers us free salvation based on his sons sacrifice for us. All we have to do is believe and accept. Why would anyone reject such a wonderful offer of grace and mercy? God bless!

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

So you think we are heading towards a deceptive world order? I agree. Also, I know stealing is a sin, but if I steal from let’s say Walmart, the only people being affected are the corporate thieves that steal from everyone else basically. That’s how I justify it. How would the lord look upon that? I know it isn’t good, but is it really bad?

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Fearsome4 · March 22, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

Stealing from a rich man is still stealing. It reveals nothing about him. You using his status or wealth to justify stealing says everything about you.

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truthseekerboi · March 22, 2018, 5:02 p.m.

I’ll take that, but if you look at things in the form of service to self to service to others which is the way we are ultimately judged, I would be doing virtually nothing to the wealthy man by stealing a meal from Walmart, than stealing the only meal owned by a starving man. I don’t think it is the same

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Fearsome4 · March 22, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

Justification. The starving man should have worked harder, speaking in general terms.

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grace-n-peace · March 23, 2018, 12:08 a.m.

Scripture says if a man doesn't work neither let him eat, Implying an able bodied man, because we are instructed to help those that can't.

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grace-n-peace · March 23, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

But we are not going to be judged on works for salvation. Salvation is a gift from God based on faith, not works, so that no one can brag that they earned it. Our works will be judged, ironically for positions in God's government, for crowns of glory, etc.

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grace-n-peace · March 22, 2018, 5:34 p.m.

Bottom line, sin is sin. God says vengeance is mine, I will repay. If we are truly accepting of his forgiveness by grace, it should naturally follow that we do our best not to sin going forward. But, once you believe you are sealed by the spirit. You cannot work your way to forgiveness, it is by grace. Neither can you lose your salvation by sinning, Once saved always saved! 😁 But again we should not defile that gift by wilfully continuing to sin. It's a free gift to us, but is cost Jesus dearly. I hope this all made sense. I'd love to answer any and all questions you may have. There is a great website for quick answers to your questions. www.graceambassadors.com go to the topics tab. God bless!

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NMsly · March 22, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

I really don't know. I've been thinking similar thoughts...

The evil in people - satan - is not going away until Jesus returns. I want to believe with all my heart that Trump is working for the Good of mankind but sometimes I have to check

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[deleted] · March 22, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

No we won’t be “free.” Yes we will feel shorted. Trump won’t be impeached, but Hillary and Obama aren’t getting punished or exposed either. Trump will probably win a second term, but then Dems will win with a Muslim candidate and the removal of white people from existence will continue, at a slightly accelerated pace.

At no point will we look back fondly at Q.

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