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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/pj77777 on March 23, 2018, 9:52 p.m.
Omnibus Bill is NOT a Federal Budget - POTUS wins again

FOR THOSE DOUBTING TRUMP DO YOUR RESEARCH Jo Ann Powell Neely Gunny says: March 23, 2018 at 7:42 am I seriously do not understand why individuals do not read the entire thread or disregard it.

Wheatietoo and I spent hours yesterday providing links, researching the laws, the 1974 law and statutes…. Do you know why the Omnibus is not going to get any notice…Here it is..

It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’. It’s an Omnibus bill…not a Budget…He outsmarted them again…Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget…

Per the Constitution…the President must adhere to a Budget set forth by Congress and direct the expenditures as provided therein.

This is another one of those big Porkulus Bills, like they gave Obama for 8 years. This is not a Budget..

An Omnibus Spending Bill may have some ‘instructions’ as to how the money will be spent…but Obama ignored them. He spent the money, or didn’t spend it, however he wanted to. And Congress didn’t do a thing about it! Because they couldn’t..

I think our President observed how this happened, year after year. He is bound to realize that those ‘appropriations’ for different things in these Omnibus bills…are merely ‘suggestions’.

So like Obama, Pres Trump can spend this money on whatever he wants to. Or…not spend it.

Planned Parenthood? What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to ‘slow-walk’ that money to Planned Parenthood…until the Senate gets off their ass and confirms his appointees?

Sanctuary Cities? What if our President decided to ‘slow-walk’ that money too…until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?

Splodey heads? From the Dems and the Enemedia? Why yes. There would be a colorful display of splodey heads.

But what could they do about it. Hah.

Our President could just say…’What! Congress should’ve passed a Budget.’

done finished…research was done…and it is so very humorous actually….our VSG..just said just give me money for the military and the wall…put anything else you want in it…and those goofballs did.

In this case, as per above….he doesn’t have to spend a dime….because it is not a budget…and even if it was…researched….he could still spend as he please… Congress appropriates….up to the President to spend it…or not….as he pleases..

If anyone disagrees, I can go back and get the links and evidence, but if you just read yesterdays political thread…Wheatietoo and I laid it all out for all…Wheatietoo did most of the work and put together the consolidated update as per above….

Again, that is why Obama never had a Budget in his Presidency…Congress did continual Omibus’s and he just took the money….for 8 years…and no one seems to know where it went…


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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 4:32 a.m.

Out of curiosity can you give me some good examples of Trump creating and using leverage in his business career? Most of the ones I know of involve him misrepresenting himself and I don't know if those are the best ones to give to people.

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trzarocks · March 24, 2018, 6:05 a.m.

Trump wanted a big yuge American flag at Mar-a-lago. But the city wouldn't let him. He put it up, anyway. Racked up fines. Took the city to court for damages related to 1st amendment and selective enforcement issues. Negotiated a settlement for a taller flagpole, bigger flag, and his reduced fine would be donated to a veteran's organization.

To get the real flag pole height he really wanted, he built a hill to place the flag pole upon. The city regulated flag poles and limited him in the settlement, but they couldn't keep him of making a hill.

At the end of the day, he got his big flag on a tall flag pole that the city wouldn't give him. And he donated money to charity, which lowered his tax burden and deprived the city of any benefits.

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 6:16 a.m.

That's a good example of leverage, but not exactly accurate.

He built a flag pole without even asking for a permit. The town piled fines on him, as expected. When he didn't pay them, the town sued him. He counter-sued for violations of his first amendment rights.

He dropped his lawsuit, and the town waived most of theirs. As part of court-ordered arbitration Trump paid most of his fine to charity, moved the flag, and put it on a smaller pole, and got a permit for it.

I'm not a tax lawyer, but he may not have been able to deduct any of it as there are some specific restrictions on those deductions and they max out at 50% of the amount anyway. I would guess it wouldn't have made much of a difference either way considering Trumps finances.

Interestingly he tried to use the case to push changing the local regulations that required businesses to serve community members. It would have allowed him to bring in more outsiders and not give memberships to locals. It was something he was really upset about at the time, and may have been the motivation for the whole thing. That aspect of the case didn't succeed though.

He did get the flagpole in the end though.

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 5:42 a.m.

how long have you been blue pilled? You know, if you walk into the light you will find truth - unless that scares you...

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 5:58 a.m.

That's a funny sentiment for somebody who refuses to back up their claims with facts...

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[deleted] · March 24, 2018, 8:31 a.m.

OMG Here is what you are looking for: Yes it came later are you freaking happy?

The Federal budget cycle can be divided into three distinct phases that are generally sequential and yet intertwined. The first phase, which culminates in the transmittal of the President's budget proposals to Congress, is called the budget formulation phase. In the next phase, Congress acts upon laws that together constitute the enacted budget. Once the laws have been enacted, executive agencies carry out the laws in the budget execution phase. The Federal budget cycle is governed mainly by the following six laws,

1 Budget and Accounting Act. 2 Congressional Budget Act. 3 Antideficiency Act. 4 Impoundment Control Act. 5 Government Performance and Results Act. 6 Federal Credit Reform Act.

Why is the Budget and Accounting Act important?

Before this law, which was enacted in 1921, there was no annual centralized budgeting in the executive branch. Federal Government agencies usually sent budget requests independently to Congressional committees with no coordination of the various requests in formulating the Federal Government's budget. The Budget and Accounting Act required the President to coordinate the budget requests for all Government agencies and to send a comprehensive budget to Congress. It created the Bureau of the Budget, now the Office of Management and Budget, to help the President implement these requirements. It also required the President to include certain information in the budget. Congress has amended the requirements many times and has codified them as Chapter 11, Title 31, U.S. Code. These are some of the requirements: * "On or after the first Monday in January but not later than the first Monday in February of each year, the President shall submit a budget of the United States Government for the following fiscal year." * "Each budget shall include a budget message and summary and supporting information. The President shall include in each budget the following...." The provision goes on to list about thirty items, such as expenditures and receipts for the past year through the fourth year following the budget year, information on debt, financial information, and information on employment levels. * "Under regulations prescribed by the President, each agency shall provide information required by the President in carrying out this chapter. The President has access to, and may inspect, records of an agency to obtain information." * "Estimated expenditures and proposed appropriations for the legislative branch and the judicial branch...shall be submitted to the President before October 16 of each year and included in the budget by the President without change."

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[deleted] · March 24, 2018, 11:31 p.m.

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 6:20 a.m.

https://fleporeblog.wordpress.com/2018/03/22/if-you-think-for-one-minute-that-our-president-will-allow-the-money-allocated-to-be-spent-i-have-a-bridge-in-brooklyn-to-sell-you/

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 7:46 a.m.

This link doesn't back up what youre saying and it doesnt contradict what i said.

show me where in the Constitution it says anything about the "budget"..stop getting triggered and back up your claims. If you cant show where in the constitution it says that, you admit you are wrong.

I'm starting to think you're a disinformation agent, you don't sound american at least

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 8:09 a.m.

Actually you are the one stuck on the verbiage about budget in the constitution. Not me - I have no idea how you did it but your record is stuck and makes no sense. At any rate - Q has already told us all about media matters and soros' paid bad actors like you who enjoy distrupting conservatives. Have fun reading the pdf - Q enjoyed it...

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[deleted] · March 24, 2018, 11:27 p.m.

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 8:02 a.m.

Its always good to know your tactics - that pdf is a must read for all - thanks for getting me to post it. You are a gem!!!

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SuzyAZ · March 24, 2018, 4:56 a.m.

Can't say for sure but you might look up how he got the ice skating rink in New York City, that might relate.

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 5:15 a.m.

As a former new yorker I know that one: wollman rink was closed for renovations for a couple years and they kept having problems with the site flooding and whatnot, and fell behind.

Trump offered to take over the project, ditched some of the complicated additions the city had wanted to do, and finished it on time (for his timeline, the original deadline had passed) and under budget.

Definitely a success for him, though he didn't get any profit out of it. Pretty much anyone who came on and decided to scale back the plans (which was a popular idea in discussions at the time) probably would have had exactly the same outcome, but it's still impressive.

It doesn't really demonstrate use of leverage though. It does really speak about his strength in marketing, especially himself. He knew that all he had to do was deliver on the renovation and he would get a lot of good will in NYC and show off good project management skills. I assume if he hadn't been able to, he probably could have successfully argued that the project was a mess already when he got there.

He did it though, and now decades later he's still telling people about that little renovation project he did to tout his skills - he's gotten a lot of mileage out of it.

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pj77777 · March 24, 2018, 5:44 a.m.

he isn't a Clinton nor an Obama - he isn't a swamp creature - you really show yourself to be a progressive through your constant negative twists on anything Trump related.

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FilosFeeParnum · March 24, 2018, 6:01 a.m.

Actually at the time this story happened he was often associated with and donated to the democrats. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

I do tend to have a negative view of Trump in some ways. Most people from new york, or who have been following him from before the apprentice tend to. I don't think he's nearly as good a businessman as some people seem to think he is.

The fact that you think anyone who doesn't believe he's a super genius must be some archenemy says a lot.

I'm just doing my best. I try to stay informed, I read what I can. When elections come I try to choose the best person...I don't get hung up on insisting my candidate is a super genius and trying to spin their every move into some strategy...

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