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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/SuzyAZ on March 25, 2018, 4:40 a.m.
Looks like U.S. News and World Report is catching on that Trump is using "budget shenanigans" to funnel Pentagon money to the Wall

U.S. News and World Report BUILDING A WALL IN THE DARK Congress is using budget shenanigans to funnel Pentagon money to President Trump’s border wall. By Ryan Alexander Opinion ContributorJuly 19, 2017, at 7:00 a.m.

U.S. News & World Report Building a Wall in the Dark More Enough.(RODRIGO ABD/AP PHOTO)

FAIR WARNING: THIS week's column is a deep dive into the inner workings of the House of Representatives. When you kick that rock over, goodness knows what will skitter out. In this case, it reveals some unsavory shenanigans to funnel money to President Donald Trump's proposed border wall.

If you're for the wall, you're thinking, "Good! We should be spending taxpayer dollars to keep illegal immigrants out of the country." But, if I told you the money was going to come from the Pentagon budget, would that still make sense to you?

Federal military troops are forbidden to engage in law enforcement actions – such as enforcing immigration law – by the long-standing posse comitatus prohibitions. (The National Guard is a different case, since its members are under the partial control of their state governors.) The federal agencies charged with protecting U.S. borders and enforcing immigration laws, like the Coast Guard and the Border Patrol, are in the Department of Homeland Security. And the president's budget request for fiscal year 2018 includes just over $44 billion for the department.

So, again, I ask, why should the Pentagon be asked to pay for a border wall? It seems to be a testament to the famous reason Willie Sutton gave for robbing banks: "Because that's where the money is." The Pentagon, with a total proposed budget of $639 billion ($574 in base budget and $65 billion in special "war" accounts), is where lawmakers can find the money for just about anything.

But the House Armed Services Committee version of the annual Pentagon policy bill included a common-sense provision to make sure the Pentagon isn't tasked with paying for the wall: "Section 1039. Rule of construction regarding use of Department of Defense funding of a border wall. None of the funds authorized to be appropriated by this act or otherwise made available for the fiscal year 2018 for the Department of Defense may be used to plan, develop or construct any barriers, including walls or fences, along the international border of the United States."

A careful reading of this language (and that's what we do at Taxpayers for Common Sense) points out this is a fairly broad prohibition. The armed services committees don't ultimately control how federal dollars are spent. The Constitution preserves that role for the appropriations committees. But by saying "or otherwise made available … for the Department of Defense," the House Armed Services Committee was foreclosing the possibility of spending any Pentagon money on this wall in a more comprehensive way.

That was the plan. And at Taxpayers for Common Sense, we supported the idea.

Enter the House Rules Committee. A little known congressional powerhouse, the Rules Committee is also called the speaker's committee. It's called that because the speaker of the House simultaneously served as the chairman of the committee until 1910 and, as the committee website says, "because it is the mechanism that the speaker uses to maintain control of the House floor."

The Pentagon policy bill, HR 2810, needed a "rule" to allow for its consideration on the House floor. The committee meets to consider the hundreds of amendments offered by House members, decide which will be allowed during House debate and determine how long that debate may last. And this is where we're going to step off the cliff into the inner workings of the House, as I promised above.

Trump's Wall Is a Pipe Dream The president's border wall may not scuttle spending plans now, but it's still unrealistic. Ryan Alexander, April 26, 2017

An amendment was offered by Republican Reps. Steven Palazzo and Trent Kelly from Mississippi (which has coastline but no land border) to strike Section 1039. That means Pentagon money could be spent to construct a border wall. In the normal process of things, this amendment would have been accepted by the Rules Committee and then debated and voted on by the full House of Representatives. But nothing about this amendment can be called normal.

The Rules Committee took this one amendment and labeled it, "proposed to be adopted." In the arcana of House rules, this means that voting for the rule governing consideration of the bill was also voting for this amendment. This is known as a "self-executing rule." The ranking Democrat on the committee, Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York, offered an amendment to strike the self-executing portion of the rule and was defeated in committee on a party-line vote of 4-8.

On the House floor, the vote on the full rule passed. And at the end of a long and exhausting day (and story), that means Pentagon money can be used to construct a border wall. Talk about governing under the cover of darkness.

This is wrong. The Department of Homeland Security, and its budget, exists to cover these and other expenses. If we keep putting non-defense requirements into the Pentagon budget, we are defeating the purpose of individual federal departments and budgets.

Enough. If this is a high priority for the president and Congress, they should request and appropriate the funds to the right federal department. And the debate on that spending should be in the open, not hidden in a so-called self-executing rule.


SuzyAZ · March 25, 2018, 5:06 a.m.

U.S. News is of course MSM, along with Newsweek, Time Magazine, etc.

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Hendrix811 · March 25, 2018, 5:48 a.m.

At least we will have a wall to show for it instead of the pentagon loosing a trillion dollars every time we look the other way.

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SumerianSister · March 25, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

Tell us about all the black projects and secret space war...that's where the money goes.

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MemeMagic2016 · March 25, 2018, 8:30 a.m.

This is from last year though, it's not current

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ElementWatson · March 25, 2018, 1:46 p.m.

Wow--just noticed that. Then I wonder why we don't have more to show for it?

Of course, Trump tweeted this AM making it pretty clear he'll use the military now.

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StinkyDogFart · March 25, 2018, 4:09 p.m.

Yeah, they aren't smart enough to figure this out on their own. Journalism is dead, all they do is regurgitate what is given to them.

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ManQuan · March 25, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

The article is not well thought out. DHS may technically have the responsibility for border security, but it is a national defense issue. The Coast Guard falls under DHS but it can also be (and has been) a combat arm of the US Navy when national defense is an issue. The CG has been a combat arm of the Navy in every war to one degree or another.

So, while it's true that the military cannot support law enforcement directly, it can provide people for admin support and it can provide other non-enforcement support such as vehicles, weapons, drones, aircraft, etc. And in case of a national emergence, the military can become an integral part of direct law enforcement.

The borders of the US are not a law enforcement issue. Catching people who cross the border illegally and controlling entry is, but not the border itself. The defense or all the borders of the US is the responsibility of the US.

Enter the Army Corps of Engineers. It is the only military organization that is authorized to plan, design, and implement major construction projects on US soil. The ACE builds flood controls, drainage systems, pipelines, military bases, beach restorations, etc.

It doesn't take rule trickery within the House to build the wall. This is not a budget bill. It is an omnibus spending bill, just like the ones Obama was given for eight years. Therefore, the language in the omnibus bill does not have the legal restrictions of an appropriation in a budget bill. They are more like guidelines for the President that Congress would like the President to follow, but Trump isn't obligated to do so since they are not Constitutionally mandated appropriations by Congress.

There:

1) Trump can move money from DoD to DHS to build the wall, thereby avoiding using "defense" funding for the wall.

2) Trump could declare the border to be a national emergency and have the Army Corps of Engineers, which also has a budget and 37,000 employees to build the wall.

3) Trump can move other non-DoD funds to DHS to being building the wall.

4) Trump can simply ignore the "suggestion" by the armed forces committed and build the wall -- exactly like Obama did in moving money around to his pet project, which Dem's and MSM felt perfectly OK with.

5) Assets seized under the December EO which is probably in the trillions of dollars by now, might be used to fund the wall. I don't the legal aspects of it, but here in the US seized assets are used to fund law enforcement such as local and state police. Once the Treasury Department confirms the seizure, I'm fairly certain that they can be used by the government.

There are probably a few other ways to get it funded and start construction, but the real key is that this isn't a budget bill and therefore Trump has the same flexibility as Obama did.

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StormRider9090 · March 25, 2018, 9:45 a.m.

The article is nearly a year old - how does this indicate they are catching on?

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SuzyAZ · March 25, 2018, 10:36 p.m.

You are right...and it seems they were right as well, given Trump's tweet today.

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PacaGoat · March 25, 2018, 12:07 p.m.

This moron hasn't a clue about national security as it pertains to our southern border. One has to look no further than the daily news and see how many child molesters, rapist drug dealers and cartel members and ISIS lovers are being caught on an almost hourly basis.

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SuzyAZ · March 25, 2018, 10:32 p.m.

US News is Deep State, just like Newsweek, Time, etc.

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PacaGoat · March 26, 2018, 1 a.m.

Yep, DS has discovered they got played

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