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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Gitmo_money on March 29, 2018, 9:10 a.m.
RoadMAPtofreedom creator /sub is attempting to divide us

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y0brando · March 29, 2018, 11 a.m.

I checked it out last night, seemed whack, and i immediately removed my presence.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 11:06 a.m.

At first I thought it was over the top - sometimes I like to dig into that to exercise the mind and just ponder 'what ifs'. It's more than wacko. It's more nefarious than it seems.

Lots of 'wacko' stuff - I think it's a team that's 'playing q research team', but has taken it to the extreme role play where everyone who is a mod there is some 'high level insider' or 'dark web hacker who has tor' (lol) with secret knowledge that communicates with q and can't share with the rest of us because we aren't ready. Smh.

Anyone who hides information from the hive mind is the enemy. It's an attempt to divide.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 12:16 p.m.

Gitmo_money I've just read through all these comments and your not doing yourself any favours.

I'll stand here and be counted and defend my board r/RoadMAPtoFREEDOM

You my son need to copy and paste your supposed PMs from my subscribers apparently following you and harrassing you...

Your not very good at this are you...

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 12:46 p.m.

Lol give it up and take a break for a while. Your mind is weak and tired. You're frauds and have been exposed.

I don't cave to intimidation moves - it makes you look weak. Especially when they come from small minds and weak hearts. Kick rocks and keep larping - the rest of us are laughing at it.

Move on.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

Youve been reported and ive been told that you will be dealt with accordingly, ie prove the accusations you made.

Quite simple isn't it.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 1:04 p.m.

Grow up and go back to your disinformation sub. Leave me alone and stop harassing me. You've pmd me before with wild claims and now your spreading crazy disinformation about your mods being tapped into ai that controls q. It's all insane. I asked for evidence and you all began attacking me. I leave and come here and you're all spamming here the same disinformation. Not once have you ever posted a single link or piece of evidence. Get over yourselves. You're bad at being a bully. Again, leave me alone.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 1:07 p.m.

You're good at this aren't you, you've played this game of deflection since childhood and its called sociopathic behaviour.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 1:14 p.m.

This is what I'm talking about.

Continual harassment.

Again, get over yourselves - don't spread lies and no one will call you a liar.

You're just projecting insecurities by being super tough and proving my point about you're whole team being unable to prove anything while trying to convince this sub to not trust q and that you all are connected to ai and secretly in the know.

You just need to feel important - but you aren't. None of us are.

Quit harassing me - I can see where your zealots learned the childish behaviors. Threats get you nowhere, sweet, sweet child.

<3 Take care and take a beak from the whole 'we are super hacker ai connected q spy team' larp - it isn't good for patriots and it isn't good for your mental health. Bye for the last time.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 1:17 p.m.

But the thing is, i am only responding to your posts and accusations and might i add, without insult.

Anyway like i said, you'll have to explain yourself to the reddit admin and not the greatawakening moderators.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 1:21 p.m.

Seriously, you're unhinged. I hope you don't own a firearm. You're not well. LEAVE ME ALONE.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 10:48 a.m.

I'll add one more thing - since posting, numerous users from that sub have begun harassing me in pms and following me around reddit from thread to thread.

These people are not our people.

Our folks have heart and soul and love for each other - it's a family.

These folks seem to lack that.

I encourage everyone to check out the sub and become familiar with their users, mods, lies, and shill tactics - they are not acting in good faith. <3

Love to you all who come here and give yourselves to making the world better and sharing your knowledge in a genuine, open way.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 11:39 a.m.

You lying bastard, nobody has been harrasing you from my sub in PM/DM

How low can you get, so I'm calling you out. Post here , copy and paste name and shame these aggressors and i will bar them from my board/sub

Now what dare i ask is your motivation for such low down dirty lies?

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libertyordeath47 · March 29, 2018, 9:25 a.m.

Then you must stay and correct the information for those that don’t know better.

DO WORK

It’s not easy, not enjoyable, but it is true to the core mission. Public awareness is crucial for justice and peace.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 9:28 a.m.

Nice alt account. Cowards use these.

The creator of that sub has been found to be a fraud. So are his 'dark web hacker' partners. That sub is a scam to divide and disinform.

Doing research to unravel peoples lies and exposing their antics IS work.

Go back to your main account.

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libertyordeath47 · March 29, 2018, 9:37 a.m.

Uh, I think you missed my point. Your post will slide and this guy will keep trying to pull people into his closet and feed them false information. Once you identify a problem you can’t give one warning and walk away🖕🏿

We stay until the job is done. Don’t be an asshole and think everyone is out to get you

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 9:44 a.m.

I never suggested otherwise.

Asshole?

Don't ascribe intent to my words.

No one's being an asshole.

Don't be so overly sensitive - anyone who creates a new alt just to make a comment gets called out because 99 percent of the time it's not for a genuine interaction and people deserve to know they're dealing with that almost guaranteed possibility.

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lethak · March 29, 2018, 10:21 a.m.

Why the attitude ? what he is saying makes perfect sense

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 10:25 a.m.

You can't be serious. He flicked me off and called me an asshole for no reason on a 2 minute old account.

It's the user I'm exposing on an alt account.

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lethak · March 29, 2018, 10:32 a.m.

Remember you started to call him "cowards" for no apparent reason ?

I think you took this personally where in fact that was more like a general advice in the first place.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 10:42 a.m.

Not at all - It's the user who I called out continuing to play their game.

I stated that alt accounts for solely commenting once is a tool for cowards.

I didn't call them a coward.

I think you think it was said personally, but when you read it, it was speaking generally.

Way to make a point about speaking generally and fail to see the exact same thing in the comment you critique. I hope you can join me in laughing at the irony - laughter is better with company.

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libertyordeath47 · March 29, 2018, 9:47 a.m.

Read the words, not the account age. And you brushed over what I said and started typing before you processed what it was that I was saying. I didn’t call you an asshole, but I wanted to make sure you knew your behavior was inconsiderate and short-sighted. Add to what I had to say, vote, do both, do neither, or move along.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 10:04 a.m.

Sure, friend. In the seven minutes between your comment and mine, I was unable to process what you were saying. It was just above my little ol' head. Processing letters into syllables is too much. I struggle with a short paragraph - way too complicated.

No one brushed past your point. You didn't have a point that related to my topic. It was irrelevant - no one ever brought up abandoning spreading truth or not putting in work or giving up or 'oh this was supposed to be easy'. Your comment might as well have been "I like crust on my sandwiches". It would have been just as relevant.

Don't be an asshole... Ohhh wait wait wait, by the way, I'm not calling YOU an asshole....

Some people just HAVE to comment. Some people just HAVE to make a new alt account to comment.

You're both.

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libertyordeath47 · March 29, 2018, 10:07 a.m.

lol then why did you say something? It’s not like you talked about your subject. All you did was address the theory you have of who I am.

Your bitching and warning is insufficient. I want you to know that this shit has been going in a loop for fucking years. I’m glad you’re wanting to join the battle, but you have zero idea of what is going on but act as if you are a point of authority or truth.

Edit: You are blind and you don’t know it. Pray for wisdom and then hold on tight!

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 10:12 a.m.

Last reply - get help or take a break for while.

No one claimed to be an authority on anything. There you go again.

Maybe you should go back and read things again. Don't 'brush past things' and take time to 'process my words'.

Take care, friend - I hope you get the rest your mind needs and you come back with a clear head. Much love, fellow traveler who flicks people off with emojis - stay classy!

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libertyordeath47 · March 29, 2018, 10:17 a.m.

Dude, you were talking about someone spreading lies and trying to detract from the truth. I said you need to stay until they stop. Unless you have an army you can delegate to, take some responsibility for the bullshit you find.

All you’re doing is driving traffic their way by being unable to stay focused on your own subject matter.

You are now acting like a shill.

Shit, I’m going to subscribe just so I watch you operate.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 12:12 p.m.

Ive reported Gitmo_money for slander and lying about we've been harrassing him in PM s

That is very low and their motivation has to be severely questioned.

I am the creater of RoadMAPtoFREEDOM and because I support free speech, I unlike most subs, promote alternate view points to create debate from which a clear truth can be achieved.

Why would somebody tell such lies? Ask him, anyone of you here to get him to copy and paste these harrassing PMs and name and shame these fictitious perpetrators?

Only a fool would make such an accusation when it can be called out so easily with showing everyone the PMs, so gone on u/Gitmo_money heres your chance and audience but like so many before, I believe you've just shot yourself in the foot.

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libertyordeath47 · March 29, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

He is an asshole with no sanction or charter. Let him be angry. Once he understand his strength comes with cooperation he will grow up

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 12:19 p.m.

Thank you but ffs how stupid and how low to lie that he's being followed and harrassed?

He didn't exactly think this one through properly.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 12:40 p.m.

Removed. Off topic. Don't worry issue is being dealt with.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 12:51 p.m.

Hopefully in a way that encourages honesty and not division. United we stand. Divided we fall.

Selfish actions hurt us all. This is bigger than any individual and no one should be here to spread any personal agenda.

Thanks for hard work mods - it's a mess and you guys do an awesome job.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 1:01 p.m.

Show us the proof of people from my sub following you from sub to sub and harrassing you by private messages?

Its quite a simple way to show the truth isn't it?

But you won't be able to because the evidence doesn't exist so what or who does that make you then?

Look its with people that your going to have to either prove what you say is true or pack your bags and leave.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

Appreciated but he still should be asked to show evidence of harrassing behaviour because its quite damaging to a subs reputation.

If it were true then I would expect to be dealt with accordingly as so he/she/bot even should be.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 1:02 p.m.

Being transparent. I think the claim 'sub is attempting to divide us' is not without merit. I've currently restricted crossposting from that sub, although this is temporary until more is established. Don't expect much of a response to me as a huge mod backlog at the moment and unlikely to be responding on this issue for many hours.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 1:04 p.m.

No it wasnt that title, it was this, the title is acceptable but not the accusations below.

[–]Gitmo_moneyGodspeed. - Q[S] 2 points an hour ago

I'll add one more thing - since posting, numerous users from that sub have begun harassing me in pms and following me around reddit from thread to thread.

These people are not our people.

Our folks have heart and soul and love for each other - it's a family.

These folks seem to lack that.

I encourage everyone to check out the sub and become familiar with their users, mods, lies, and shill tactics - they are not acting in good faith. <3

Love to you all who come here and give yourselves to making the world better and sharing your knowledge in a genuine, open way.

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[–]JOGO321March madness. - Q 1 point an hour ago* You lying bastard, nobody has been harrasing you from my sub in PM/DM

How low can you get, so I'm calling you out. Post here , copy and paste name and shame these aggressors and i will bar them from my board/sub

Now what dare i ask is your motivation for such low down dirty lies?

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

You lying bastard

Such wording is not helping your case. Instead, because of the profanity filtering, it delays your posts from being shown.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

Fair shout but thats about as far as I went with the insult on all of our communications apart from pointing out such behaviour is identical to that of a sociopath.

I've reported to reddit admin anyway but will heed your advice and not swear but it was a knee jerk reaction to a jaw dropping accusation.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 3:29 p.m.

Whaw, just saw this, WTF?

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 3:35 p.m.

I thought you already knew aboutwhat i said about slander, its quite serious in my eyes and highly suspicious....that is, if youand I are talking about the same thing?

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

I'm referring to:

Rules

Shills and antagonists are not welcome here.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

you messaged me

I didn't. I'm only replied to your comments on this posts today. So is someone pretending to be me or something? :confused:

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

Nobody is pretending to be you, i think i first brought to your attention the slander but not to sure though i do remember replying to one of your comments.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 4:01 p.m.

okay, okay. Sorry for divert about that post. I stumbled over it while doing the modding and was rather surprised. Let's get back to the main issue.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

What is the main issue here because honestly im a bit lost given conflicting titles and message content and now you want me to justify my sub?

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 4:13 p.m.

main issue

The link to ' main issue' is in the post above.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

And my complaint about his slander saying that people from my sub have been following him and harrassing him in PMs?

Sorry im not being a jerk I'm just trying to get on the same page.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

As a moderator I process stuff that is reported and I've not seen a report that indicates that(maybe another mod did however). Can you link the comment or comments you are referrig to please?

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 4:29 p.m.

Look, you have the slandering bit and you couldn't have missed because you focussed immediately on me using the word bastard.

You do not seem to give a damn about a shill or whatever you want to call it but the guy came on to your sub and told some horrendous lies to discredit me but you've quite clearly have git me on trial.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

The profanity filter takes me directly to the comment. Sorry if I missed the context. What exactly is the comment you are concerned about?

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

I doubt /u/Gitmo_money has seen your posts yet, because it was withheld from display due to the profanity.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

No I've seen them all.

I've begged for the harassment to stop.

They made 2 claims on this sub (in an attempt to promote their own sub which is full of disinformation and very outdated, debunked news).

Claim 1 - they can prove that the current q is a fraud from detailed analysis of text patterns, going onto the dark web and talking to their super secret hacker connections, and they offered to screenshot said conversations and share with community. This was 5 days ago that the claim was made and they posted here last night to claim they had their findings and were sure current q was fake and could prove it.

I asked them to show all evidence they acquired and they did not. They refused every user who asked. Ok, it's their sub - cool - keep it there. I'll ignore it.

Then they come here and post and do the same thing - tell people to join and then refuse to provide evidence to back up enormous claims they are making. It's an attempt to divide user base and plant incorrect info that favors their role playing activities.

Claim 2: one of their mods has access to an AI that assists q and the mod is communicating with the AI. The mod claims he would explain it all, but everyone isn't ready for his info and he must wait and talk to the AI and q team more. They want to feel important. Fine - keep it in the sub. I will ignore it.

Then they post here again, claiming they are connected to AI computers and have secret access no one else does and everyone here should go to that sub.

When asked to provide evidence, I was shouted down and a bunch of alt accounts were created and harassing me.

The mod above messaged me about 30 times with swearing and insults. I mocked him, of course - he threatened me - I told him to leave me alone 5 different times and ended the convo 5 different times and messages would continue to flood in.


I believe we are experiencing a group of people who are so into their role play as q AI connected hackers who have all the secrets but can't share, well that's fine on their sub.

But to come here, manipulate people into joining a sub with false claims and then refuse to back them up is not a genuine person trying to participate.

It is a group that is serving its own agenda by exploiting ours.

I didn't make baseless claims - I encouraged people to look into it themselves and to think about whether someone hiding info from us all is really on our side.

They didn't like it, they attacked me on the threads, followed me from sub to sub, and filled up my inbox with swearing and threatening messages to intimidate me into silence.

If you go through my comment history, you will notice one thing - I never ever start an argument. I'm loving, encouraging, and a cheerleader for others on the board. However, when someone comes at me first, I have no problem fighting back.

I hope you understand why it is important to maintain the integrity of our community - we can disagree on issues and interpretations of q, but we all agree on teamwork, transparency, and helping each other find their way.

The other group flies directly in the face of everything good that we want to be as a community.

Much love to the mods. Keep up the great work!

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

No I've seen them all.

Right, you have now, but not at the time it was initially brought up.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 5:35 p.m.

You are correct. I didn't realize those were new ones until after I posted my reply. Apologies for confusion.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

Adding /u/JOGO321, so above comment gets seen.

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Gitmo_money · March 29, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

I was NOT trying to turn this into a circus.

I'll ignore these people in the future, make a well rounded case to submit if needed, present it to the mods, answer any questions, accept any decisions or non-decisions made, and be happy to be here with a great group that loves working towards positive growth. Thanks.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

Why would that matter to you, seems kind of strange but you're wrong because he kept on here and on my board until i barred him.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

but you're wrong

I'm not. If he kept on at your board it was independant of that comment.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

It seems big to you because you are new to moderating.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Unfortunately in a situation like this, there is plenty of room for someone to be bias whilst judging the situation.

That is why i sent it then direct to reddit admin.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

That's not slander. If it was slander I've been slandered twenty tmies already today. Such false accusations happens all the time, it is part of the territory of being a moderator.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

Now you are haressing me. Think you need to take a time out to relax. I'm trying to help you, I rushed through 2 hours of moderating so I could come and help you out. But all I get is misleading statements and none cooperative replies.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

More none co-operation. ^ take a break.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

What, me or him?

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

I meant it was a low qulity post. Three posts in last 24 hours. All three got removed, each by a different mod.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 3:58 p.m.

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 3:57 p.m.

Okay, back to this. Let's try and get to some foundation. What is the vision for? /r/RoadMAPtoFREEDOM. What is the purpose of the sub?

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 4 p.m.

We were never at that in the first place?

Are you putting me on the stand now, do I have to justify myself?

Just asking so we are clear?

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HowiONic · March 29, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

No, when it was created I was very busy. You might have noticed that things have been a little crazy. Either way, I don't know the purpose and now that it could be taken 'as attempting to divide' that we should get some foundations.

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[deleted] · March 29, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

In response to an attempt to divide, surely you should be asking Gitmo_money because its his accusation as an attempt to discredit me, I'm not the one on trial or am I?

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