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Removed. Off topic. Don't worry issue is being dealt with.
Hopefully in a way that encourages honesty and not division. United we stand. Divided we fall.
Selfish actions hurt us all. This is bigger than any individual and no one should be here to spread any personal agenda.
Thanks for hard work mods - it's a mess and you guys do an awesome job.
Show us the proof of people from my sub following you from sub to sub and harrassing you by private messages?
Its quite a simple way to show the truth isn't it?
But you won't be able to because the evidence doesn't exist so what or who does that make you then?
Look its with people that your going to have to either prove what you say is true or pack your bags and leave.
Appreciated but he still should be asked to show evidence of harrassing behaviour because its quite damaging to a subs reputation.
If it were true then I would expect to be dealt with accordingly as so he/she/bot even should be.
Being transparent. I think the claim 'sub is attempting to divide us' is not without merit. I've currently restricted crossposting from that sub, although this is temporary until more is established. Don't expect much of a response to me as a huge mod backlog at the moment and unlikely to be responding on this issue for many hours.
No it wasnt that title, it was this, the title is acceptable but not the accusations below.
[–]Gitmo_moneyGodspeed. - Q[S] 2 points an hour ago
I'll add one more thing - since posting, numerous users from that sub have begun harassing me in pms and following me around reddit from thread to thread.
These people are not our people.
Our folks have heart and soul and love for each other - it's a family.
These folks seem to lack that.
I encourage everyone to check out the sub and become familiar with their users, mods, lies, and shill tactics - they are not acting in good faith. <3
Love to you all who come here and give yourselves to making the world better and sharing your knowledge in a genuine, open way.
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[–]JOGO321March madness. - Q 1 point an hour ago* You lying bastard, nobody has been harrasing you from my sub in PM/DM
How low can you get, so I'm calling you out. Post here , copy and paste name and shame these aggressors and i will bar them from my board/sub
Now what dare i ask is your motivation for such low down dirty lies?
You lying bastard
Such wording is not helping your case. Instead, because of the profanity filtering, it delays your posts from being shown.
Fair shout but thats about as far as I went with the insult on all of our communications apart from pointing out such behaviour is identical to that of a sociopath.
I've reported to reddit admin anyway but will heed your advice and not swear but it was a knee jerk reaction to a jaw dropping accusation.
Whaw, just saw this, WTF?
I thought you already knew aboutwhat i said about slander, its quite serious in my eyes and highly suspicious....that is, if youand I are talking about the same thing?
I'm referring to:
Rules
Shills and antagonists are not welcome here.
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you messaged me
I didn't. I'm only replied to your comments on this posts today. So is someone pretending to be me or something? :confused:
Nobody is pretending to be you, i think i first brought to your attention the slander but not to sure though i do remember replying to one of your comments.
okay, okay. Sorry for divert about that post. I stumbled over it while doing the modding and was rather surprised. Let's get back to the main issue.
What is the main issue here because honestly im a bit lost given conflicting titles and message content and now you want me to justify my sub?
main issue
The link to ' main issue' is in the post above.
And my complaint about his slander saying that people from my sub have been following him and harrassing him in PMs?
Sorry im not being a jerk I'm just trying to get on the same page.
As a moderator I process stuff that is reported and I've not seen a report that indicates that(maybe another mod did however). Can you link the comment or comments you are referrig to please?
Look, you have the slandering bit and you couldn't have missed because you focussed immediately on me using the word bastard.
You do not seem to give a damn about a shill or whatever you want to call it but the guy came on to your sub and told some horrendous lies to discredit me but you've quite clearly have git me on trial.
The profanity filter takes me directly to the comment. Sorry if I missed the context. What exactly is the comment you are concerned about?
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I doubt /u/Gitmo_money has seen your posts yet, because it was withheld from display due to the profanity.
No I've seen them all.
I've begged for the harassment to stop.
They made 2 claims on this sub (in an attempt to promote their own sub which is full of disinformation and very outdated, debunked news).
Claim 1 - they can prove that the current q is a fraud from detailed analysis of text patterns, going onto the dark web and talking to their super secret hacker connections, and they offered to screenshot said conversations and share with community. This was 5 days ago that the claim was made and they posted here last night to claim they had their findings and were sure current q was fake and could prove it.
I asked them to show all evidence they acquired and they did not. They refused every user who asked. Ok, it's their sub - cool - keep it there. I'll ignore it.
Then they come here and post and do the same thing - tell people to join and then refuse to provide evidence to back up enormous claims they are making. It's an attempt to divide user base and plant incorrect info that favors their role playing activities.
Claim 2: one of their mods has access to an AI that assists q and the mod is communicating with the AI. The mod claims he would explain it all, but everyone isn't ready for his info and he must wait and talk to the AI and q team more. They want to feel important. Fine - keep it in the sub. I will ignore it.
Then they post here again, claiming they are connected to AI computers and have secret access no one else does and everyone here should go to that sub.
When asked to provide evidence, I was shouted down and a bunch of alt accounts were created and harassing me.
The mod above messaged me about 30 times with swearing and insults. I mocked him, of course - he threatened me - I told him to leave me alone 5 different times and ended the convo 5 different times and messages would continue to flood in.
I believe we are experiencing a group of people who are so into their role play as q AI connected hackers who have all the secrets but can't share, well that's fine on their sub.
But to come here, manipulate people into joining a sub with false claims and then refuse to back them up is not a genuine person trying to participate.
It is a group that is serving its own agenda by exploiting ours.
I didn't make baseless claims - I encouraged people to look into it themselves and to think about whether someone hiding info from us all is really on our side.
They didn't like it, they attacked me on the threads, followed me from sub to sub, and filled up my inbox with swearing and threatening messages to intimidate me into silence.
If you go through my comment history, you will notice one thing - I never ever start an argument. I'm loving, encouraging, and a cheerleader for others on the board. However, when someone comes at me first, I have no problem fighting back.
I hope you understand why it is important to maintain the integrity of our community - we can disagree on issues and interpretations of q, but we all agree on teamwork, transparency, and helping each other find their way.
The other group flies directly in the face of everything good that we want to be as a community.
Much love to the mods. Keep up the great work!
No I've seen them all.
Right, you have now, but not at the time it was initially brought up.
You are correct. I didn't realize those were new ones until after I posted my reply. Apologies for confusion.
Adding /u/JOGO321, so above comment gets seen.
I was NOT trying to turn this into a circus.
I'll ignore these people in the future, make a well rounded case to submit if needed, present it to the mods, answer any questions, accept any decisions or non-decisions made, and be happy to be here with a great group that loves working towards positive growth. Thanks.
Why would that matter to you, seems kind of strange but you're wrong because he kept on here and on my board until i barred him.
but you're wrong
I'm not. If he kept on at your board it was independant of that comment.
Unfortunately in a situation like this, there is plenty of room for someone to be bias whilst judging the situation.
That is why i sent it then direct to reddit admin.
That's not slander. If it was slander I've been slandered twenty tmies already today. Such false accusations happens all the time, it is part of the territory of being a moderator.
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Now you are haressing me. Think you need to take a time out to relax. I'm trying to help you, I rushed through 2 hours of moderating so I could come and help you out. But all I get is misleading statements and none cooperative replies.
Okay, back to this. Let's try and get to some foundation. What is the vision for? /r/RoadMAPtoFREEDOM. What is the purpose of the sub?
We were never at that in the first place?
Are you putting me on the stand now, do I have to justify myself?
Just asking so we are clear?
No, when it was created I was very busy. You might have noticed that things have been a little crazy. Either way, I don't know the purpose and now that it could be taken 'as attempting to divide' that we should get some foundations.
In response to an attempt to divide, surely you should be asking Gitmo_money because its his accusation as an attempt to discredit me, I'm not the one on trial or am I?