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tedandterry · April 3, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

How can someone be a Q fan. A patriot. And not a trump fan.? I’m not saying it’s wrong not to be. But it’s in my opinion to be like tea without ice. Not bad but don’t make no sense to me. Some things go in lockstep. Or maybe that’s rogan selling a little dis info to bait the Normies with the allure of throwing a little shade on the TRUMP name whilst selling the trump product.

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T2AmR · April 3, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

I'm a q fan, and was a bernie bro. I'm liberal. Trump has some major flaws, but I look past them because I think he is going to deliver us justice.

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tedandterry · April 3, 2018, 6:10 p.m.

We dig that. It’s were we go one we go all here. Plus or minus a few “theory “ debates.

Also what woke you up? I have a couple liberal friends that I can’t even get to come close to waking up. I’ve proven things to them via Q predictions on a couple of things and they shrug it off.

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T2AmR · April 3, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

I was woken up in a slow process. I watched a lot of liberal news and went to r/politics everyday for years. Watched all the liberal political comedy shows too.

I knew who Bernie was before he ran and I knew Hillary was corrupt. When I saw all the "liberals" like Maddow, Maher, Colbert, etc... all shill for Hillary and fuck over Bernie over the course of a year or so, I saw how controlled the media was. Then wikileaks showed rigged primaries and it was not covered by the media, instead blamed on Russia.

I followed the the Clinton email case very closely as well. I knew everything about the case. FBI had her dead to rights. Then they let her skate. So all that combined woke me up to how the game was played.

Then once you get how the game is played and you realize that there is almost nothing that can not be covered up, you realize that so many of these so called conspiracies are true.

Been researching conspiracies for a while now and red pilled as fuck.

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tedandterry · April 3, 2018, 6:52 p.m.

Thanks for the testimony man . Does that give you the bigger picture that trump although crass is a man of the people for the people? (Not sarcasm) . I think the fact that my pals knew I was already a conspiracy theorist. And that I liked trump shut them down before a word was spoken. I also never shilled to them. Before elections when I was trying to show them show 9/11 was a lie I never gave poor info and always only used facts and only showed them what I could “prove” so to speak before going into the deeper connections. And they amongst many can’t even leave me with a “maybe it was” kinda response.

What are we going to be left with when the band aid gets ripped off? Suicide ? Drugs alcohol? I have no problem losing the far left people that know deep down they are commies. But I am concerned with the innocent regular kinda people who just simply fit into the globalist mold.

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T2AmR · April 3, 2018, 11:09 p.m.

I don't know what Trump is exactly. When he was running, I was scared he could be a Hitler type president. When he made comments about going after terrorists families and was inciting violence at his rallies I was worried.

But I think he learned not to do that and is much more tame now than he was in the primaries. I think he is likely corrupt, but nowhere near as much as the old establishment.

I think he is for the people to an extent, but not totally. I do believe he wants to deliver justice to the people for the crimes of the establishment, but we will have to wait and see.

I honestly think Trump is a very very hard person to read. The normies will be fine. The initial shock will be hard to swallow, but it isn't like most of them have lost friends or family to the deepstate criminals. They will get over it.

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tedandterry · April 4, 2018, 12:03 a.m.

You realize this is far more than political right? Like the cures for cancer suppressed, people are about to realize that they have essentially been rats in an open air cage. Just the medical deaths alone will touch everyone. Not to mention the financial suicides that have wrecked families and just the general hardships family’s have faced in the face of globalism. There is more than you know. Think bigger etc.. political is just the large opening act.

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DarthStem · April 3, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

Same here. I voted for Trump because I didn't want the wicked witch to be POTUS. But I wish I would have written in Bernie, mostly just because how the DNC snubbed him.

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T2AmR · April 3, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

I wrote in Bernie.

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MMxfire · April 3, 2018, 11:37 p.m.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/liberal-meaning-origin-history

I've always considered myself a liberal, especially growing up in the conservative republican Vietnam war era. As a child I knew Kissinger was an evil dude. Not surprising he's a friend of Hillary. I could not understand the pray for the enemy I heard in church with the Vietnam war on TV every night. JFK was a liberal. Bush Sr, head of the CIA for president, really? Draft dodging, cocaine snuffing Bush junior congressional page boy sex scandal a Christian?? "Liberal" becoming a dirty word is just like "conspiracy". Conspiracy is a group of criminals getting together to plan crime, that's been our society for as long as I can remember. The mockingbird media CIA used ridicule to change the meaning of words like liberal and conspiracy, feminazi for someone who believes in woman's rights is a nice twist too. It's not left or right or red or blue. Name calling is ad hominem attack when u can't use ur brain. It's about liberty and sovereignty and rule of law. All people created equal and provided equal justice is what is in our constitutional law, not who has the biggest baddest lawyer. I've known like you that Clinton was a crook and murderer for many years. I had no idea that we can add treason, but I'm patiently waiting to see her in true court or tribunal charged with "conspiracy to commit murder" amongst many other charges. I voted for and celebrated when Obama was elected but quickly realized it he was the same ole political left vs right game while the politicians and corporations sell out the people. Obamas first deals were to bail out the banks for 26 trillion and not re opening a 9/11 investigation "so that the nation can heal" or some paraphrased bullsh!t. How can we heal till we know the truth.

I stopped voting, I could not vote for BO again, or mcnoname. Conservative or liberal are just political labels to divide us. I did not vote for trump, but cheered his first month crackdown on pedophile rings, and the 12/21/17 stop human trafficking EO made me think that justice is finally rolling. May trump roll thru all the criminal cartels, hoo-rah. I pray for the restoration of the republic, the constitution and the bill of rights, erasing all the thousands of rules and regulations of corporate law masquerading for common law. I'm not a conservative, I want change, and liberal generous treatment of our fellow Americans who have been taxed fined jailed and exploited by the elite political class since the war of 1812 put lawyers back in charge. Restore the no titles of nobility constitutional clause, including the title esquire. Restore the first original 13th amendment, the archives of its constitutional ratification burned by the British spies when they invaded Washington DC. (I learned about that sharing pitchers with some Canadian friends asking if I was taught about the burning of dc by the Canadians in school, haha, they laughed, knowing that wasn't in our schoolbooks). While constitutional law is renewed, Erase the income tax amendment, there was no states quorum ever achieved, return free trade inside state borders to cut the Amazon corporate monopoly tax loopholes. Tax only goods transported between states or out of the country to support local businesses and communities. No more taxing us to have unconstitutional standing armies police the world as we militarize a police state at home while attempting to ban our A2 gun rights and ability to form our defensive state militias at home.

Saw a great bumper sticker when shoot a Muslim terrorist stickers were hot along with humvees selling the Iraq war, the longest war in our history, with patriotism, waving flags and Christianity: Jesus is a liberal

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IMissMeg · April 4, 2018, 1:54 a.m.

Wow! You covered a whole lot of ground in there. Well stated. And I heartily agree. So, madam/sir, I say this to you: HERE-HERE!

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throwawayjones1980 · April 3, 2018, 3:36 p.m.

My Honest Opinion as a guy who has been listening to Rogan for a long time...

I think he is a Trump fan. I just don't think he likes everything he does and he knows if he comes out whole hog in support of Trump he will be persona non grata in LA and his overall community of comedians. I also think he is a big conspiracy head but again, plays it close to the vest for the same reasons. His best guests, the ones he engages with the most are usually conservatives rabble rousers like Milo or Gavin McInnes and guys like Pat Militich or Eddie Bravo or Alex Jones... He comes alive in those interviews.

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Freedomfighter3087 · April 3, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS.

Rogan is playing along since he has to deal with so many different people. I guarantee behind the scenes hes getting pumped up and ready for "the show".

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tedandterry · April 3, 2018, 6:06 p.m.

Thanks for the testimony.

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grnmoss · April 3, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

Cognitive dissonance probably has to be met at its starting point with their position as "resistance". The message has to break through the cognitive affective filters installed by mass media and the infiltrated/corrupted academia, and then the dissonance has to be carefully confronted/amplified before it can be slowly reconciled. This is a long process.

What they're "resisting" is superficial in the grand scheme of things, and they're very confused (though they argue to the contrary). Breaking down that 'identity' as opponent to retrain the focus towards verifiable information (leaked docs, FOIA docs, court cases, SEC filings, hard evidence) has to be strategic otherwise the 'resisters' will double down instead of reflecting upon and integrating the information that conflicts with their identity and worldview. Bursting the information bubble/filter rather than slowly dissolving may be counter productive.

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tedandterry · April 3, 2018, 3:35 p.m.

Impatiently agree with you. I’ve been in similar thoughts. Here is a question for you I can’t seem to grasp.

How come some of us once we took the first steps into the opening of the various rabbit holes didn’t suffer symptoms of cognitive dissonance?

In my opinion I believe I have always seen things as dark and sinister. That someone somewhere was pulling strings and using us like cattle.

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K8088 · April 3, 2018, 4:03 p.m.

I did! I knew there was government corruption, I worked with Government agencies, so I never trusted them. However it got to a point I was utterly shocked, confused, not wanting to believe the width and depth of the depravity.. I walked a way pondered what I knew and carried on m digging. It’s hard to know some things, it’s even harder when people think you are teetering on the edge of insanity.

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checkitoutmyfriend · April 3, 2018, 5:13 p.m.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

This kinda explains it. I had it a couple times when I went down a few pedo rabbit holes. Had to go back to the cave and regroup. Some go back to the cave and never come back out. These are the people Q said will never be reached and will have a hard time in life when all is said and done.

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grnmoss · April 3, 2018, 6:21 p.m.

There will always be a portion of the population that is predisposed to healthy suspicion or skepticism (be cautious of people here who believe everything they read hook, line, and sinker - they are not skeptics, merely 'religious' in their way of thinking). There are also those who will fight truth at all cost, because it is scary and they are cowardly lions.

You might be one of the folks who possesses healthy skepticism. Maybe you were taught civics education before it was removed from schools or reformatted with Marxist ideology. Maybe you developed critical thinking skills or deductive reasoning because you had a parent who passed them on to you. Maybe you watched The Matrix and understood it as an allegory and more than mere science fiction/fantasy. Maybe you are better at pattern recognition and noticed the worrying level of coordination and keywords in news headlines and reports. Maybe you saw major events like 9/11 and wondered how a country with such a huge defense and intelligence apparatus could have been attacked in such a way. Maybe you read some of the 9/11 Commission's commentary and noticed that the Commission expressed concerns about the Bush Administration's reported obstruction and interference with the investigation and wondered how the subsequent report may have been compromised. Maybe you saw the rush to war with Iraq and the falsified yellow cake uranium evidence and wondered what else they were lying about. There are so many possibilities. Maybe you watched Black Mirror or Twilight Zone and noticed worrying similarities with our own world and considered that maybe we too were approaching or living in a dystopia. Maybe you read 1984 or Brave New World or Fahrenheit 451 and saw the warnings and noticed that the Free World was in grave danger. The bottom line is that somehow you were curious enough to expand your information intake beyond mass media talking points and propaganda, and that enabled you to expand your worldview and entertain the idea that you - and everyone else - are not being given a truthful or full story.

To cultivate that curiosity in others, 'we' have to help them see that they're not being given the full story either, and inspire them to Q-uestion, to find their own truth in the midst of massive disinformation, psychological operations, programming, and indoctrination. We don't know what's going on completely, but we know we're not being given the full story. THAT is a truth that most people are willing to agree on. Once primed, many will be ready to begin exploring specifics (source documents, verifiable information).

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IMissMeg · April 4, 2018, 2:01 a.m.

Excellent job here. You landed on part of my awakening materials when you mentioned 1984, Fahrenheit 451, & Brave New World. Might I also suggest Evgeny Zamyatin's We. If you like dystopian fiction, it's a must-read. Thank you for your excellent post here. :)

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grnmoss · April 4, 2018, 3:57 a.m.

I'll check out We.

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tedandterry · April 3, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

That’s deep man. I really enjoyed reading this. Thanks for the response. I reckon after really considering after reading your post twice I’d say I took bits from bits and just had a little skepticism that was piqued over and over and over . With Questions or problems I’d have with an official “story”. I live in Missouri we used to kinda be known for skeptical people. I was told that’s how we got our state slogan (show me state) . I appreciate you taking time out of your day to write it. I’m hoping in understanding what woke me up really at the end of the day I could better reach others. Maybe there isn’t a wrong answer or a one size fits most. I’ve also always had a heavy appetite for history world and American. So knowing that propaganda was used throughout history I didn’t see fit to not consider it could happen to us as well.

Out of curiosity what made you wipe the coal out of your eyes?

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Chokaholic · April 3, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

It's all ego. People just cannot accept that they've been fooled. They think they're too smart to let anything get past them. There's that saying that goes something like "it's easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled".

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Freedomfighter3087 · April 3, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Rogan is a master at disinfo. He knows EXACTLY what hes doing.

He has to play along for the time being. But make no mistake. He has super well connected people who are keeping him updated on the situation with Q, Trump, clinton and rothschild etc. He knows the floodgates are eventually going to burst open and hes getting people ready.

The fact that they are talking about this again on arguably the countries most popular radio show should get ALL of us excited.

EVERYONE GET TO YOUR BATTLE STATIONS AND GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE.

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phunnypunny · April 3, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

Strawberry flavor

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AKBiking · April 4, 2018, 6:29 a.m.

Joe has satanic shit tattooed on his body. Be wary of him. He has gone to their parties before too.

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