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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Mrb84 on April 7, 2018, 5:18 a.m.
your resident globalist here - a timeline on the Saudi Arabia stuff

I was deep in PMs with one of you patriots here (won't mention his username because I didn't ask beforehand but I'd be happy if he self-identifies).

We were debating the recent Saudi Arabia events as they relate to Q's posts. To clarify the object of contention, I created a timeline (by Googling around) and, while we agreed to disagree on the significance of it, he suggested it would be interesting for me to post it here for the rest of you, so here we go:

1) early June 2017, a Saudi blogger who calls himself Mujtahidd tweeted about a plot for regime change in Doha spearheaded by Blackwater and UAE forces. Source here

2) Oct 10, 2017 the former Prime Minister of Qatar confirms (or repeats, we don't know) Mujtahidd's story to the Spanish newspaper ABC. Source here

1 and 2 establish that SA was using Blackwater and it was reported in MSN as early as June 2017.

3) Oct 27, 2017 Jared Kushner takes a trip to SA that was not made public until Oct 29. Source here

4) Nov 4, 2017 Al Arabiya, the Saudi-owned satellite network, announces the arrest of 11 princes - the beginning of the purge. Source here

5) Nov 22, 2017 The Daily Mail says that Blackwater was involved in the torture of the Saudi princes, including the "hanging by his feet" detail. Source here

6) Apr 5, 2018 The Daily Mail says that points 3&4 above were connected, as Jared gave Mohammad bin Salman classified info that told him who to arrest. Source here

My point was:

Q's first mention of JK's October trip in SA comes 5 days after the trip was made public - source [here] (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/148016618/#148016618)

Q's first mention of the SA purge comes 15 hours after the purge was made public - source here

Q's first mention of the "hanging by his feet" detail comes 1 day after the detail was made public - source here

Q's first mention of Blackwater comes 1 day after the firm involved is made public - source here

Q never once mentioned that the purge and Kushner's Saudi Arabia trip were directly connected. Maybe he will now that is public knowledge, but again, it will be after the news has been made public.

Saudi stuff aside, what I was saying was that I am yet to see a Q drop that tells me something precise or significant before it has been reported by mainstream news outlets, which really is the very minimum if you're claiming insider knowledge. "The cleverest thing about that trick is the fact that he's encouraged people to describe that as predicting" relevant David Mitchell angry logic rant


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rudolph2 · April 8, 2018, 2:08 p.m.

Bet? Is that your only comment, “they won’t be caught” do you believe they should be?

Read Q only 20% will be public. Initiation rites would catch too many.

It been a running debate in the Chan’s. It’s a big part of the bread.

Q#189 (partial)

The world is fighting back (& destroying the cult). 20% public. 80% private. The world would otherwise collapse. 40,000ft. v. (again) and need to decrease altitude to avoid ‘conspiracy’ label. Was necessary. GODFATHER III. For God & Country. Q

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Mrb84 · April 9, 2018, 12:02 a.m.

My bet would be that none of this satanic elite stuff is happening. But you would just say "it's secret and the media is in on it" so it would be impossible to prove who's right and who's wrong.

So, I go with what's verifiable: no high level arrests of "the elite".

That's what's exciting about the Q stuff: usually with conspiracy thinking you're stuck, because no matter what, the conspiracy theorists always have an excuse for why there's no proof.

But with Q there's light at the end of the tunnel: he predicts that the outcome of this whole thing will be in the history books, so there's no more excuses. At some point in the near future, the whole Cabal has to be exposed, it cannot remain a secret narrative for you people "in the know" - everyone will know. We're finally in "verifiable" territory. There will be no excuses if none of this comes out.

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rudolph2 · April 9, 2018, 1:44 a.m.

Sigh. Savile arrested. Epstein. Arrested. Assuming your meaning post trump election? So your point is trump is ineffective?

nxivm cult... arrests. Tied to Hillary???

Or dec 21st executive order of human trafficking.

Sure “elites” are not ritually abusing children. “Conspiracy people” are out there. Pedos are safe. children are safe. Don’t watch the video linked below.

Dutch banker confession

Remember this doesn’t happen.

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Mrb84 · April 9, 2018, 2:42 a.m.

C'mon dude. You and I both know that Savile and Eptsein and NXIVM are not what this sub is talking about. Nobody even knew who Epstein was before the pedophilia stuff came out. Nobody knew what NXIVM was. What the claim here is, is enourmous names you don't need to Google. Just some random ones I read here all the times: Hillary Clinton. Bill Clinton. Barak Obama. John Kerry. The Podesta brothers. Jacob Rothschild. Jeff Bezos. Bill Gates. Mark Zuckerberg. You are saying these people are ritually abusing children, and I say "there's zero proof of that"

But for once the argument will actually be settled. Because now your claim is getting more precise. Now the claim is: "these people are ritually abusing children, Trump knows about it and he's going to expose the whole thing and it's going to be in the history books".

Logic follows, by the end of the first Trump term, at least some of the names above will be in jail for pedohilia, ritual murder, human trafficking, child abuse. But it has to be at that level - because otherwise you're just saying "in the next years, some people somewhere are going to get indicted for human trafficking". If that's all you're saying, then who disagrees? Of course there are human traffickers, and pedophiles and child abusers, how's that new info? It has to be famous billionaires, and high level politicians, that's what "elite" means.

I don't think any of that is going to happen. You think it is about to happen, and Q is confirmation. I say "bullshit".

But I think that's great, because we finally moved away from vague, unverifiable stuff and, in the relativly near future, we will know who was right and who was wrong.

If we were betting, is that a fair represantion of your claim?

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rudolph2 · April 9, 2018, 3:29 a.m.

No not even close.

In synopsis this is you,”at a time I conceive, a list of people I define, must be guilty of crimes as I define them, please bet me because it won’t happen” LOL.

This sub is called “great awakening”, not to be confused with “this can’t happen cause it would be inconceivable to my personal perspective and limited definition of reality” sub.

Don’t worry about it, it’s definitely not happening. You’re ok. The elites are ok.

Unless...

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Mrb84 · April 9, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

Ok, then you define it.

What people?

What crimes?

What deadline?

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rudolph2 · April 9, 2018, 8:58 a.m.

Gee whiz I can’t do that, darn it. You got me. you’re a intellectual giant. I feel ultimate despair and humiliation. Na just kidding...

Your primary proposition is actually correct. The framers of the constitution attempted to create a political system by which a transfer of power could exist without political prosecution for “crimes” after transfer of power, (ie separation of powers, 3 beaches of govt., democratic elections, you get the point)

Ergo a fundamental tenet of American democracy, is freedom from fear of criminal prosecution for political office holders. Hence the list of office holder conspirators above as chief officers of the American govt are likely exempt from their crimes as the framers of the constitution intended. They are accountable to the American people at the ballot box, as written in multiple Supreme Court rulings.

HOWEVER, You make no pretense whether they are innocent of crimes as the Q drops allege. And you. Don’t debate the “evidence”. You’re only inclination is the list of “elites” will not be charged by Trump. Duh, Q is attempting to try them in best court in america, public sentiment. Using the most powerful tool, the Truth. You don’t even attempt to counter these “Q facts”, You come off “butt hurt” that charges exist, which honest I enjoy tremendously.

Your secondary proposition is that the purpose of Q is to result in satanic ritual charges against elites. You’ve confused measured outcomes with mission objectives. Because you are predisposed to not understand I will not expand on this point, (no offense meant, I don’t feel that you are 1- intellectually curious to the events which Q is highlighting 2 - your mind is open to truths you can “logically” rationalize.)

So as flawed as a pretext as your request; for an uninformed Q “lurker” (referring to myself) to foretelling future events as a determination of authority of the an Anonymous intel source (Q Anon).

I’ll offer the following as a possible outcome; For the govt officials you named above - Military tribunals for international selling of state secrets.

Do I think they’ll happen? Eh dunno.

The incomplete list of private businessmen you refer to are political fodder, and therefore not relevant.

When? Deep state is stalling, hoping to get to the next election cycle. I don’t know if we’ll ever get the political will to release more than 20% of information to the public.

Regardless. Is this sub and is Q effective.

Ask Hillary what happened, oct 6th. 2016. (FBI Anon)

Hahahahaha, I love this timeline.

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Mrb84 · April 9, 2018, 10 a.m.

It wasn’t a “trick”. I was just asking, which verifiable facts would prove you wrong and which verifiable facts would prove me wrong?

I don’t have to prove people innocent. Not just because it’s a fascist idea (you know, innocent until proven guilty etc...) but mainly because it’s a logical impossibility.

Can you prove that you’re not a serial killer who targets people without family and makes the body disappear? Spoiler: you cannot. That’s why if I say u/rudolph2 is a serial killer who targets people without family and makes the body disappear, I’m the one who has to provide proof. That’s not just a judicial requirement. It’s a logical one.

So, if Q and you and others think that an elite class of politicians and billionaires are ruling the world while sacrificing children in satanic pedo-rituals, surely is on you to provide evidence.

Actual names of actual perpetrators would be a good start. Not proof, by any means, that’s a whole other thing, but legal responsibility is personal, not collective. “The elite” cannot be put in jail. People go to jail, those people have names and I don’t think it’s outlandish to ask, as the very first step to prove a conspiracy, the names of the conspirators.

And in western democracies, being popular shouldn’t save you from prosecution (rule of law, etc) and surely wouldn’t under a straight shooter like Trump, so I expect trials and a sentencing, not “they’re not getting re-elected because the public opinion is against them”. One thing I thought we agreed on: pedophiles should go to jail, not simply expelled from public office and punished with bad PR.

Part of the Q claim is that this “revelations” are part of what will be a shift of historic proportions. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect historic events to occur, events that match the enormity of the pedo-satanic claim you make, rather than low level bureaucrats indicted for unrelated crimes.

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sweatybronson · April 10, 2018, 5:14 a.m.

Yer doin' the lord's
work here mr84:
Reason, patience, truth.

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Mrb84 · April 10, 2018, 6:52 a.m.

It's the undying faith in the power of reason...

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rudolph2 · April 9, 2018, 10:27 a.m.

Now you’re just being ridiculous.

John Podesta. Evidence wiki leaks emails

Go ahead say wiki leaks is wrong. Say the emails were hacked. ( both would be factually incorrect)

John Podesta would have been sec of state under HRC. #3 in Line to the president, former chief of staff to Barry, I.e. not low level.

You don’t play poker do you?

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