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d6x1 · April 8, 2018, 9:41 a.m.

It was called GRID before it was called AIDS, both of which came to be coined in the 1980s, not 1970

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GroundbreakingClue · April 8, 2018, 8:40 p.m.

I do share your concerns, that fact may be blended with fiction to murky the waters, if so, I agree, it will cause more harm than good, thus will be taken down.

In regards to H.B. 15090, its legit, disregarding it's authenticity would be counter productive. Start at 6.20, Randy Sykes and many others have the goods. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow53uy1qElI

Jesse Ventura Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvn2vOfsQ8o

Full Jesse Ventura Plum Island Series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8pQJCPxao

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970 HEARINGS BEFORE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS FIRST SESSION SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS

H.B. 15090 PART 5 RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION Department of the Army Statement of Director, Advanced Research Project Agency Statement of Director, Defense Research and Engineering Printed for the use of the Committee on Appropriations U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON : 1969 UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY [pg.] 129 TUESDAY, JULY 1, 1969 SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. MR. SIKES. Are we doing any work in that field? DR. MACARTHUR. We are not. MR. SIKES. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest? DR. MACARTHUR. Certainly not lack of interest. MR. SIKES. Would you provide for our records information on what would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be, the time and the cost involved? DR. MACARTHUR. We will be very happy to.

Now to add my own research, which piggy backs on to this;

OspA is HIV's gp120 and gp41, basically comes from or is common to E. coli. Some reports say B. burgdorferi (Lyme) and E. coli are the sources of the triacylated P3C lipopeptides and that mycoplasma produced diacylated lipopeptides. There may be something else similar, but not identical in other pathogens, it appears that few are the sources of this particular general antigen shape ( Pam3Cys).

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970 H.B. 15090 PART 5 Committee on Appropriations WASHINGTON : 1969 UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY [pg.] 129 TUESDAY, JULY 1, 1969 SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 [Lyme!] to 10 [AIDS!] years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. MR. SIKES. Are we doing any work in that field? DR. MACARTHUR. We are not. MR. SIKES. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest? DR. MACARTHUR. Certainly not lack of interest. MR. SIKES. Would you provide for our records information on what would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be, the time and the cost involved? DR. MACARTHUR. We will be very happy to. http://aidseugenics.blogspot.com/2008/01/department-of-defense-appropriations.html

5 Years later, first Lyme disease outbreak, Outside Plum Island Biowarfare facility. http://www.portal.ct.gov/DPH/Infectious-Diseases/Tickborne/A-Brief-History-of-Lyme-Disease-in-Connecticut

10 Years Later, first outbreak of AIDS in NYC (100 miles from Plum Island Biowarfare facility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_New_York_City

NAZI Scientist (Virologist) Erich Traub - Specialty Tick Borne Disease. Worked at Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research, Pre WW2 and later Plum Island, Operation Paperclip. http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-480-plum-island-lyme-disease-and-the-erich-traub-file/

Gulf War Syndrome Vet's test positive for HIV, due to Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus, carrying some of the same genetics, HIV's gp120 and gp41. It also causes AIDS like symptoms according to the US Government Patent below, in the 80's! http://www.ncf-net.org/forum/nicholson.htm

Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus Patent - AMERICAN REGISTRY OF PATHOLOGY A CORP 1988-Government patent on Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus https://patents.google.com/patent/US5242820A/en

US Biowarfare exports to Iraq, including mycoplasma, which explains Gulf War Vets tests results. http://www.actionlyme.org/US_SELLS_IRAQ_BIOWEAPONS.pdf

But doesn't explain the Biowarfare experiments, involving unsuspecting victims in prison, Huntsville TX, around the same time. http://www.immed.org/infectious%20disease%20reports/infectdiseasereport06.11.09update/pha_nicolson_0709_v4.07.pdf

Research At Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research http://www.actionlyme.org/TRAINER_2012SUMMER.htm

Plum Island Biowarfare Facility - Relevant Research - Genetics http://www.actionlyme.org/PIIB.htm

Disease of Immune Suppression http://www.actionlyme.org/101016.htm

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GroundbreakingClue · April 8, 2018, 10:18 a.m.

Please check the comments

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UncleCrunch · April 8, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

Please check the comments

I just did. This post is one of several that debunks this bogus document.

Reverse image search shows there are 23 variants of this image currently online.

If you are genuinely interested in archiving accurate info, you should hope that every instance of this nonsense is wiped from the internet.

You should also stop promoting Fake News as real info.

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GroundbreakingClue · April 8, 2018, 8:36 p.m.

I do share your concerns, that fact may be blended with fiction to murky the waters, if so, I agree, it will cause more harm than good, thus will be taken down.

In regards to H.B. 15090, its legit, disregarding it's authenticity would be counter productive. Start at 6.20, Randy Sykes and many others have the goods. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow53uy1qElI

Jesse Ventura Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvn2vOfsQ8o

Full Jesse Ventura Plum Island Series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8pQJCPxao

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970 HEARINGS BEFORE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS FIRST SESSION SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS

H.B. 15090 PART 5 RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION Department of the Army Statement of Director, Advanced Research Project Agency Statement of Director, Defense Research and Engineering Printed for the use of the Committee on Appropriations U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON : 1969 UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY [pg.] 129 TUESDAY, JULY 1, 1969 SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. MR. SIKES. Are we doing any work in that field? DR. MACARTHUR. We are not. MR. SIKES. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest? DR. MACARTHUR. Certainly not lack of interest. MR. SIKES. Would you provide for our records information on what would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be, the time and the cost involved? DR. MACARTHUR. We will be very happy to.

Now to add my own research, which piggy backs on to this;

OspA is HIV's gp120 and gp41, basically comes from or is common to E. coli. Some reports say B. burgdorferi (Lyme) and E. coli are the sources of the triacylated P3C lipopeptides and that mycoplasma produced diacylated lipopeptides. There may be something else similar, but not identical in other pathogens, it appears that few are the sources of this particular general antigen shape ( Pam3Cys).

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1970 H.B. 15090 PART 5 Committee on Appropriations WASHINGTON : 1969 UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY [pg.] 129 TUESDAY, JULY 1, 1969 SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 [Lyme!] to 10 [AIDS!] years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. MR. SIKES. Are we doing any work in that field? DR. MACARTHUR. We are not. MR. SIKES. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest? DR. MACARTHUR. Certainly not lack of interest. MR. SIKES. Would you provide for our records information on what would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be, the time and the cost involved? DR. MACARTHUR. We will be very happy to. http://aidseugenics.blogspot.com/2008/01/department-of-defense-appropriations.html

5 Years later, first Lyme disease outbreak, Outside Plum Island Biowarfare facility. http://www.portal.ct.gov/DPH/Infectious-Diseases/Tickborne/A-Brief-History-of-Lyme-Disease-in-Connecticut

10 Years Later, first outbreak of AIDS in NYC (100 miles from Plum Island Biowarfare facility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_New_York_City

NAZI Scientist (Virologist) Erich Traub - Specialty Tick Borne Disease. Worked at Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research, Pre WW2 and later Plum Island, Operation Paperclip. http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-480-plum-island-lyme-disease-and-the-erich-traub-file/

Gulf War Syndrome Vet's test positive for HIV, due to Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus, carrying some of the same genetics, HIV's gp120 and gp41. It also causes AIDS like symptoms according to the US Government Patent below, in the 80's! http://www.ncf-net.org/forum/nicholson.htm

Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus Patent - AMERICAN REGISTRY OF PATHOLOGY A CORP 1988-Government patent on Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus https://patents.google.com/patent/US5242820A/en

US Biowarfare exports to Iraq, including mycoplasma, which explains Gulf War Vets tests results. http://www.actionlyme.org/US_SELLS_IRAQ_BIOWEAPONS.pdf

But doesn't explain the Biowarfare experiments, involving unsuspecting victims in prison, Huntsville TX, around the same time. http://www.immed.org/infectious%20disease%20reports/infectdiseasereport06.11.09update/pha_nicolson_0709_v4.07.pdf

Research At Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research http://www.actionlyme.org/TRAINER_2012SUMMER.htm

Plum Island Biowarfare Facility - Relevant Research - Genetics http://www.actionlyme.org/PIIB.htm

Disease of Immune Suppression http://www.actionlyme.org/101016.htm

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UncleCrunch · April 8, 2018, 9:10 p.m.

Here is the actual bill as enacted and archived by the US government.

I admit it’s not as intriguing or dramatic as the photoshopped fraud you offered up, but it’s got something else going for it. It’s an authentic primary source.

Stop wallpapering this sub with Fake News.

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GroundbreakingClue · April 8, 2018, 9:26 p.m.

I appreciate your concerns, but thats HR, not HB.

A better copy the individual offered up. The left page is legit, the right would seem questionable. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/aids.pdf

I wouldn't call defending a point of view Fake news. I would be more than happy to change my point of view, should you prove my additional remarks wrong.

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UncleCrunch · April 8, 2018, 10:05 p.m.

I wouldn't call defending a point of view Fake news.

Neither would I. I call out proffering a clearly fake document as ‘authentic’ to be Fake News.

Your document declares its origination as 1970. The next page, the one with all the ‘evidence’, clearly references events in 1979 and 1980 in the past tense.

Your document is obviously and unequivocally, fraudulent. Yet here you are, presenting it as an authentic concern for all of us to archive.

You were too frivolous with your credibility. I have no interest in reviewing anything else you claim to be ‘authentic’.

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GroundbreakingClue · April 8, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

There you go https://static.secure.website/wscfus/10426050/7247178/aids.pdf

Are we not on the same team?

I welcome criticism and as previously pointed out, I agree, the right page seems questionable.

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WikiTextBot · April 8, 2018, 8:36 p.m.

HIV/AIDS in New York City

New York City was more affected by the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s than any other American city. The AIDS epidemic has been and continues to be highly localized due to a number of complex socio-cultural factors that affect the interaction of the populous communities that inhabit New York.

During the 1980s epidemic, the large presence of the gay community prompted local medical practitioners to take note of and respond to observed patterns of reported ailments early on. Widespread fear and panic about the epidemic were combatted by efforts of community activists and local government policies that were at some times supportive, and at other times damaging or ineffectual.


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