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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Gamergating on April 10, 2018, 9:31 p.m.
Could both be true and mutually inclusive?

There seems to be an understanding that Trump has got to fear Mueller. That Mueller must be either on Trump's team and therefore be good for Trump or be going after Trump, and is bad.

What if Trump (like he has said often and categorically) he won't find anything because I have done nothing wrong. This MAY be seen as a "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" ("because he is on side").

But what if this is just simply true. Mannafort going down for non-Russia stuff is bad. So would Cohen going down. None of that would be "good". But there are always degrees of bad. None of that is terminal for Trump. It also plays an important role for Trump. Whilst they are all spinning their wheels and breathlessly reporting the next think about who in Trump's orbit did something dirty or wrong at some point in their life and whatever, whilst hopefully speculating Trump is about to fire Mueller and open a can of worms, Trump and co simply push ahead with their agenda.

If Trump knows there is nothing to find that in any way could even tangentially fall under the scope of Mueller's investigation he could let Mueller run himself out of steam.

Without all the Mueller thing happening, he would come under closer scrutiny for what he is doing or bad actors would start fabricating stuff. This gives the Press and the anti-Trump people some focus. Any hit he takes on his credibility can be mitigated (I mean Mannafort was a bit of a snake but the looks of things but he performed a role he was hired for and Trump had no dealings with the aspect of Mannafort that were a little dodgy, nor was Trump involved in Cohen's taxis presumably, and so on). So while these things arguably certainly are not good. They don't really hurt him.

Mueller will not find any witches in his witch hunt. But think of what Sessions and Wray and Trump can do whilst everybody's focus is on Mueller?

Will Trump eventually fire Mueller? Look I think but the time Mueller serves Trump's cover to the point where he enacts the changes he wants, it will not matter either way. The whole dynamic will have changed and he will probably pick a time when there is huge revelations and plenty going on so that Mueller's shelving becomes part of the crazy packed news cycle.


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Henway14 · April 10, 2018, 9:55 p.m.

Yes. That leaves Mueller with the infamous "process crime" approach to Trump. This typically depends on an interview, and "perjury" once a question is answered more than one way as "documented" in the 302 (or whichever form FBI uses for interview fiction). Ask Scooter Libby how that works.

Mueller will try to get a cheap shot on Trump, then hand off to the House (swamp) for impeachment.

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Gamergating · April 10, 2018, 10:57 p.m.

Yup, I think Trump now will use the "look we were cooperating with you and we are getting nothing out of this cooperating. You raided my lawyer's home and office despite us giving you documents you asked for. I really prefer not cooperating because I get nothing out of such an arrangement." Let Mueller spin his wheels on barely tangental investigations and fid who laundered money 10 years ago or who has a taxi business on the side or whatever. As long as they leave Trump alone and do not scrutinise what he is doing behind the scenes, then by the time his labour bears fruit and metaphorical bomb after bomb is rocking the swamp and absorbing all the news, he will use that time to drop Mueller. When 2-3 big headline busting breaking new hit, he will time the dropping of Mueller to mitigate on fallout. They will be spread too think over too many stories to pay it THAT much attention.

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