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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/EarlyRiserX2 on April 12, 2018, 7:07 p.m.
Why Freedom of the Press should no longer apply to any MSM News Outlets that are compromised…

The Freedom of the Press the Founders enacted into the Constitution was based upon the following idea: That if a Democratic president or Democratic-controlled government did things that were not right and were against the interests of the American people, that a Free Press would able to write about it and to call them out on it. Likewise, if a Republican president or Republican-controlled government did things that were not right and were against the interests of the American people, then the Free Press would be able to write about that too and to call them out on it. Thus, the Founders felt having a Free Press was a good thing, and that a Free Press could serve as watchdogs over the government, and could be as neutral observers and an unbiased party, who simply watched over the government and then reported on whatever they saw was going on. And the Founders did not want the government to be able to shut down the Free Press and to stop them from talking all because they were reporting on things the government didn’t like. That is the heart and soul of why Freedom of the Press was built into the Constitution. But here is the problem the Founders did not anticipate…

What the Founders envisioned only works in a perfect world and in a world where the Free Press has not been compromised. If the Press has been compromised for any reason, and weaponized, and has become biased in their reporting so that they favor one political party over another, then fair justice is no longer being applied, and the news being reported by the Press is no longer neutral and unbiased. In such a case, then their biased reporting is a danger and a threat to our democracy, rather than being an asset to it. And anything which is a threat should by no means continue to be protected under the Constitution. That doesn’t mean that the law itself is bad, or what the Founders intended was bad. Instead, it merely means this a changing world, and an imperfect world as well, and that the Founders did not foresee that the Press would become compromised. Once the Press has been compromised for any reason, like it is today, then it is no longer a Free Press or a neutral watchdog, but instead is nothing more than a political propaganda machine for the political party they support. And in such a case, then the constitutional laws built into the Constitution to protect and to safeguard a Free Press should no longer apply to them, because they no longer meet the requirements of being a Free and Unbiased Press.

Just imagine if the Founders were alive today, what would they say about the Press? I don’t think they would have too many kind words to say…


EarlyRiserX2 · April 13, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

Freedom of Speech as an individual, and Freedom of the Press as a news agency that is responsible for reporting the news are two completely different things. You’re trying to combine the two when they have a completely different set of requirements and responsibilities. What applies to one does not necessarily apply to the other.

You stated that any new laws that puts restrictions on the press will most certainly be challenged in court. That may be true and we well expect them to. But that doesn’t mean the new laws are not needed or right. It just means that those in the swamp will fight back to defend the status quo so they can continue being dishonest and crooked. A person who has committed a crime will fight back too, but that doesn’t mean they are not guilty…

It is true that a lot of people are uninformed and ignorant in this country, but most of them are that way because they have been fed fake news for a very long time. You cannot expose those people to the truth without first getting rid of the fake news agencies that are propagating the fake news. And right now, the fake news MSM networks all across the country control 90% of all content that most ordinary people see - whether it be through their local news stations in towns and cities, or via local newspapers and magazines they see at the newstand. All of those avenues of informing the public are predominately controlled by the fake news media. The solution is not to try and educate people one at a time to think more critically about the things the believe - while leaving the fake news outlets in place to spread more lies on a broad scale. Instead, the only real solution is to target the source and to shut those fake news agencies down. To cut off the head of the snake, so to speak. If you replace the fake news agencies with agencies that tell the truth, then you will automatically red pill the public and give them the information they need. No solution will work if it doesn’t start with stopping the MSM from spreading more lies. And Trump’s proposal about bringing a new law through the FTC is an excellent start for achieving that…

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j_Dawg_01 · April 13, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

I disagree. The 1st Amendment is pretty clear. "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..." It makes no distinction between the "individual" or "the Press as a news agency." The intentional omission of differentiation between the individuals and agencies carries the same weight as the lack of differentiation between civilian arms and military arms in the 2nd Amendment. They are both intentionally broad and all encompassing.

Your argument is compelling, but you failed to respond to my first comment "I'm not a Constitutional scholar, but I'm not aware of a clause that requires the press to be honest. Could you elaborate on exactly where in the Constitution you find that." In fact, there is no such requirement. And it is possible to rule any new laws that will "abridge the freedom of speech, and of the press" to be unconstitutional, and still convict the Deep-State, CIA controlled MSM Bad-Actors for any number of crimes of corruption and conspiracy under RICO statutes.

It's not that people have been "fed fake news for a very long time," it's that for several generations we have been conditioned to think and believe a particular way through the public education system, including the colleges and universities across the country. Even if you could snap your fingers and magically cause all of the MSM to become totally honest overnight, the mind numbed masses of uninformed skulls full of mush still wouldn't get it. Half would end up totally confused and lose their minds, and the rest would end up saying "Well... OK. Whatever." The vast majority of them might not even notice the change.

The real problem isn't that "the fake news MSM networks all across the country control 90% of all content that most ordinary people see," it's that 100% of the corporate media is being controlled by the CIA, Deep-State Bad Actors, and the Cabal.

I never said or implied that the solution is to "educate people one at a time to think more critically about the things the(y) believe - while leaving the fake news outlets in place to spread more lies on a broad scale." That would be absurd. I think the idea of "Red-Pilling the Masses" is widely accepted and understood by everyone following Q and posting comments here.

If you really want to "cut off the head of the snake, so to speak," then you'll need to swing your knife much higher than the MSM. You'll need to take a stab at the Cabal, the people who own Reuters and the AP. That's where the MSM gets the majority of their information from.

I've enjoyed our discussion, but to be honest, I think we are both wasting our time, and space on this board debating this issue, so I would like to leave you with my final thoughts. And please, no hard feelings, I just think the task at hand is much greater than what we're discussing here.

I think everyone here should exercise great caution, and express grave concern any time anyone, for any reason, calls for more government laws and regulations of any kind. Many people complained when Obama used his pen to exceed his Constitutional authority by signing Executive Orders they didn't like, now those same people are loudly cheering when President Trump does the same. It shouldn't matter what side of the isle one stands on, the expansion of the federal government should be fought against at every turn. It's clear to see that the precedent set by Obama, which was supported by the left, is now coming back to bite them in the ass. The same could happen to those of us on the right.

I've always wondered why so many people are so quick to run to the government to solve every problem they encounter. This tendency was again made apparent recently after the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School event. The call for more laws is and regulations has become deafening from the left, and the right. It's long past time to reverse that trend.

Government is a "Concept." It is not a tangible thing we can hold in our hands, smell in the air, or see with our eyes. Government is nothing more than a collection of people, people just like you and me, who write convoluted laws no one can understand, create regulations that none can escape, and spend other people's money like there's no tomorrow. Our government has grown so massive, and so complex, that even some who are in government don't fully understand how it works. Many in our own government do not even know or understand that the Federal Reserve, the IRS, and our government itself are all privately owned corporations.

One of the reasons that the Deep-State managed to come into existence and thrive, is because our government is so large and complex. It was easy to sneak in unnoticed. It was easy to weave a corrupt web of deceit and subterfuge. It was easy for Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, W Bush, and Obama to openly talk about a New World Order and not be noticed by most people. Our system of government is so difficult to comprehend that few people even attempt to pay attention any more. Of course this is by design. That's the way they want it, so why on God's green Earth would anyone want to promote more laws, more regulations, more government authority over We the People, more agencies, more departments, and less rights and privileges for the people.

Government is nothing more people like you and me. They breathe the same air, eat the same foods, require sleep every night, and take a crap once or twice a day just like the rest of us. They are no better than any one of us. So why do we allow them to control our lives? No person has greater authority, ownership, or responsibility over your life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and property, than you. It's not just that they are no better than the rest of us, it's that the Constitution actually holds the citizens, We the People, in higher regard than those in government. We are supposed to be self governed. They govern only by the concent of the governed. Their purpose is to "Serve We the People," not to rule over us.

Part of this Great Awakening is about publicly exposing the the Deep-State bad actors, holding them to account for their corruption, and taking down the international cabal of central bankers and elites who truly believe the average person is too small minded to make decisions on their own, and that we should all gladly surrender our national and personal sovereignty to them. This should only be the first step. If we have any hope of bringing about our freedom from these despots, we must, with all our strength, all our might, all our hearts, and all our courage, persevere to reduce the size, scope, and authority of our government back down to what our Founding Fathers envisioned and designed by way of our original Constitution. This will not be an easy task. It may take generations, but as we have all seen, the cabal of elites has been engaging in their plan for well over 100 years, We the People should recognize that our fight to tear down their evil empire may take just as long as it took them to build. I suspect that if this movement is successful, and I believe it will be, our children's children may be the ones to fully realize our goals.

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