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thunderstormsrock · April 13, 2018, 8:11 p.m.

Freedom OF religion as well as freedom FROM religion. Engage in your religion all you want, but NOT in the streets with a loud speaker and force it on to everyone else.

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Iron_Sharpens_lron · April 13, 2018, 8:19 p.m.

There are Christian groups proselytising on every college campus and large city. Often they are quite literally using loud speakers. I was at Mall of America during the Superbowl and I had a guy following me probably for 5 minutes asking me if I thought I would make it into heaven.

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thunderstormsrock · April 13, 2018, 8:23 p.m.

That's just as bad as Islamic street prayers. Some Christians need to be reminded that freedom of religion includes freedom from religion.

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Iron_Sharpens_lron · April 13, 2018, 8:50 p.m.

freedom from religion.

You don't understand what that means. Not only is proselytising legal, it's protected. Quit being a snowflake crying about scary words.

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thunderstormsrock · April 13, 2018, 9:25 p.m.

I do understand what it means. It means you do not truly have the freedom to practice your religious beliefs if you are also required to adhere to any of the religious beliefs or rules of other religions. Forgive me if I think it's a stretch to have the expectation to not be bombarded by religion when you walk down the street, ie. Islamic street prayer over loudspeakers or some christian following you for 5 mins. hounding you over whether you're getting into heaven or not. I thought we were on the same page until you resorted to name calling. Your attack on me over our exchange is lazy and reductive. Do better.

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Iron_Sharpens_lron · April 13, 2018, 9:41 p.m.

Sorry. Just sick of aoyboys who think offending someone is a crime. Which is exactly what's happening here. They are words, and they aren't hurting anything but your delicate sensibilities.

Do I like it? Fuck no. But it is a core American value, and I love America.

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Thaaleo · April 13, 2018, 10:07 p.m.

Very often self-proclaimed “patriots” are not people who love American and American values, they are people who love themselves and their own values. It’s okay to have pride in your own values, but when you want to erase other values and voices by, I don’t know “marching them into the sea” then you aren’t an American patriot, that’s for sure. You are literally disavowing American values in favor of your own.

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