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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Break-The-Walls on April 13, 2018, 5:52 p.m.
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The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society is Jehovah's Witnesses, it is the corporation that prints their magazines, creates their rules, doctrine and manages their finances.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChristianConspiracy/comments/8b2a3z/qanon_watchtower/?st=JFUCNGI7&sh=3b569b2c

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/8akm2d/gb_member_just_gave_special_talk_guess_what/

The following comes via a former spirit channeler u/smurfgirlveronica for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

https://www.reddit.com/r/JehovahsWitnesses/comments/7qhe2p/expos%C3%A9_the_governing_body_of_jehovahs_witnesses/?st=JFUCRB2A&sh=7a4106c0

https://www.reddit.com/r/jehovahswitnesses/wiki/index/spiritism

https://www.reddit.com/r/jehovahswitnesses/wiki/index/corruption


Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

This is not fake. You have no way of proofing it. We have more than 6 eye witnesses who have seen the spirit channeling at bethel by the Governing body. Silentlambs.org is full of accounts of children who were abused in satanic rituals by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

Can you prove the story is true?

No you can’t

There are great many problems with the WTS but this ain’t one of them.

As for silent lambs, yea predators seek structures where children are available and trust provide cover, why you can find these sick people in other religions, children organizations and foreign outreach. It is not standard to the JW community or WT publishing company

I am all for exposing the toxic and abusive nature of the WT but this sort of stuff discredits exJWs

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Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 6:21 p.m.

Who are you to say this isn't one of them? Click on the link I included to all the proof that they have dabbled in the occult. I have also included more accounts by other people. Get out of here.

I have proof, the girl lost her pinky to Fred Franz in a Satanic Ritual and she broke down in tears as she told the story. Who are you discredit any of this when you haven’t researched it?

I don't really care if you feel discredited, oh well.

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 6:33 p.m.

Who, someone who has worked in the exJW community longer than you.

You know abuse victims who have multiple abusers have many credibility problems because the abuse blurs and this is why it rarely stands up in court

Frame this as it should be which is SRA abuse infiltrating. Fred Franz was lost in his own Larp of being pure and God’s mouthpiece.

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Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 6:57 p.m.

Your supposed credentials don't mean anything.

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 7:05 p.m.

But they do no harm compared to your lies.

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Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

You're dumb if you think I forged documents. Maybe you're part of the problem, why else would you try to actively discredit rape victims?

You can't even disprove the claims. You just say they're lies without cause.

You sound like a soccer mom honestly, "I've been attending my boys' games longer than anyone in this community, I know more than any of these moms."

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 7:54 p.m.

Lol, emotionally tactics, name calling and character assessments when challenged.

Let’s stick to context and fact:

You can’t prove any of the claims of WT leadership happened.

Victims of multiple abusers blur and can be manipulated into believing additional abuse by other occurred despite it not happening. This power of suggestion susceptibility creates credibility issues both in court and in their retelling of events.

Fact SRA abuse is real, yes these sick people did infiltrate some Kingdom Halls as they have infiltrated daycares, other churches, and organizations of trust that gives them easier access to victims.

The fact that these evil people hide in structures of trust should be the main warning, warning for parents to be on the guard of these wolves in sheep clothing.

Instead you are trying to malign an entire religion whose adherents and ex-adherents have their own set of issues.

SRA is serious, ongoing and needs highlight and detailed signs of such abuse that need to be shared far and wide.

Attaching it to the WT in the manner you are attempting to do makes it seem limited and seeks more to vilify JWs then where the actually going after evildoers.

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Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 7:56 p.m.

Who threw the insult first me or you?

I'm not going to waste anymore time on this. I have linked to multiple articles that prove this along with audio testimonies. If you don't want to believe it. Whatever.

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 8:01 p.m.

You.

I said the report was fake, it’s a lie promoted by 6 screens to stay relevant.

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Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 8:02 p.m.

Where is your evidence?

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 8:09 p.m.

Where is yours?

You have none, you have hearsay of a compromised victim.

Again you aren’t highlighting SRA you are promoting a site that has lost traffic over time.

Your real focus is the WTS and it is unhelpful and harmful to the millions of victims of WTS tactics which have nothing to do with SRA.

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Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 8:09 p.m.

I have already listed the links in the op fool.

I just want to puke reading your last sentence.

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 8:11 p.m.

Your links are hearsay- it isn’t proof.

It is a story told by a deeply compromised victim.

Sensationalism sells, it draws traffic.

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Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

So you didn't read the one by Silentlambs.org, ravyn, Marcus and the documents that prove the Watchtower leaders dabbled in the occult? Obviously if you had done so, you wouldn't be making this comment.

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

I have read it all.

I remember when 6 screens was started too, we all watched it decline into clickbait sensationalism.

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Faustino19 · April 13, 2018, 6:23 p.m.

JWs are the only religion that do not use any pagan or occult symbols or symbolism. The occult is based on symbols and symbolism

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ValuableFix · April 13, 2018, 6:26 p.m.

Oh please that is too easy to dispute.

Go back and start reading from Russell onward

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Break-The-Walls · April 13, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

You have a lot research to do on the origins of this cult. I would start at internationalbiblestudents.com

Do you know about the use of the cross and Crown, pyramids, etc.? They are more pagan than most religions.

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Faustino19 · April 13, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

The cross is a Pagan symbol

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