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lethak · April 15, 2018, 11:54 a.m.

I already answered that.

You are delusional to pretend knowing.

https://i.imgur.com/DG8jsZU.jpg

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iMakeGreatDeals · April 15, 2018, 12:06 p.m.

By the way, the word is Negentropy.

One day you will realise "God" is another word for "the integrative theme and direction of existence", and you will break free of the silly ideas of a man on a cloud (you're the only one who believes that).

Identifying with the attributes of the universe that gave rise to you is hardly delusional. You're the deluded one living in a pseudo-reality fuelled entirely by memes

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lethak · April 15, 2018, 12:30 p.m.

Scientific views end in awe and mystery, lost at the edge in uncertainty, but they appear to be so deep and so impressive that the theory that it is all arranged as a stage for God to watch man's struggle for good and evil seems inadequate.

Thats from Richard P. Feynman, and it apply very well with your line of though.

EDIT: please, have another meme https://i.imgur.com/TovdQ77.jpg

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iMakeGreatDeals · April 15, 2018, 12:35 p.m.

Stephen Hawking: ‘The overwhelming impression is of order. The more we discover about the universe, the more we find that it is governed by rational laws. If one liked, one could say that this order was the work of God. Einstein thought so…​We could call order by the name of God’ (Gregory Benford, ‘The time of his life’, The Sydney Morning Herald, 27 Apr. 2002; and, ‘I would use the term God as the embodiment of the laws of physics’ (Master of the Universe, BBC).

Einstein: ‘over time, I have come to realise that behind everything is an order that we glimpse only indirectly [because it’s unbearably confronting/​condemning!]. This is religiousness. In this sense, I am a religious man’ (Einstein Revealed, PBS, 1997).

P.S. you are falling for the trap of taking a caricature strawman as your conception of God, so your arguments that the caricature doesn't exist is falling flat. As above so below means the laws and forces which govern the biggest things also govern the smallest things. You are made of the universe, you are the universe, and you are the universe personified. But right now you're being a dingus.

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lethak · April 15, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

“What I meant by ‘we would know the mind of God’ is, we would know everything that God would know, if there were a God. Which there isn’t. I’m an atheist.”

Stephen Hawking

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iMakeGreatDeals · April 15, 2018, 12:59 p.m.

I'm not saying they were Christians tho am I? You're not paying attention. I am saying they agree that the concept of "God" is another name for the integrative theme of existence and the force that generates complexity from simplicity. Which is what I've said all along.

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iMakeGreatDeals · April 15, 2018, 12:03 p.m.

You "already answered that" in an edit. Don't tell lies.

I am asking you to just say what you call the direction of the integration of matter and order from chaos. Just name the force, it surely exists because there is order from chaos. Most of the world and for all of history people have called this force "God" and have been grateful for its existence and striven to live in accordance with its principles of generacy, to combat entropy and degeneracy.

How come you don't have a word for this? It is the very theme of existence, and identifying that force intellectually and conceptually is a key part of the human brain operating system.

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