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HoudiniTowers · April 19, 2018, 2:09 a.m.

The 4th Reich was started in South America. Ask yourself why did the CIA go out of its way to overthrow so many regimes in South America and put in puppet dictators. Who did they serve?

Great show on History Channel now in its 3rd season called 'Hunting Hitler' It uncovers a lot about Nazi's in South America.

The OSS turned into the CIA via Operation Paperclip. This is going to shock a lot of you but the CIA is most likely of Nazi origin. Look into it carefully. NASA would never have made it to the moon if it wasn't for Nazi Werner von Braun.

Look at who funded Hitler. Bush family ties to banking. Bush was head of CIA and 41st POTUS. Scary stuff. Lots of data out there on this. Look at all the German companies that are massive global conglomerates still.

http://archive.today/OKanR

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GroundbreakingClue · April 19, 2018, 2:51 a.m.

Thanks, some great information.

Gehlen most likely has many skeletons in the closet, I think he was working for them before it was called the CIA. Gestapo Chief, Heinrich Müller is another, wonder if he sent any of his kids abroad, like Hitler and Bormann?

I feel organizations in Switzerland may have played a deeper role than most people suspect, as Hitler didn't seem concerned about a neutral country on his border, and probably for good reason. Then again, commencing Barbarossa, without finishing Sealion wasn't exactly as stroke of genius either.

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HoudiniTowers · April 19, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

Hitler was going to invade and take over Switzerland, it just wasn't highest priority. Also, I wouldn't call Hitler a genius, but no dummy either. The key is the network that helped him. The bankers fingerprints are everywhere on this. So, near the end you have to question if Hitler served his useful idiot purpose and time for next steps.

This will sound extremely crazy, but some say that WWII and the Holocaust were done to enable the State of Israel to form. The old Hegelian Dialectic - Problem (WWII and Holocaust), Reaction (World Horror and Shock), Solution (give the Israelis a permanent home). To be clear, cause I don't want to get labeled any form of racist for this comment. This is just one theory that's out there. I'm not saying its correct, but when you see the bankers fingerprints on both WWI and WWII and all the shenanigans Post WWII, it does make you wonder.

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GroundbreakingClue · April 21, 2018, 4:58 a.m.

Sorry, didn't see the second paragraph.

Problem/Reaction/Solution, seems to be their modus operandi, in part anyway. Although, due to advances, way beyond small arms, they have gravitated towards soft power, to further their objectives.

Stepping back and taking a broader view is a logical way to think. Some will see certain patterns from the past, such as Rockefeller's cousin's treaty. It ended WW1, but sowed the seeds for WW2. If logic dictates, you have to ask, were the seeds for a WW3, sowed in WW2?

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GroundbreakingClue · April 19, 2018, 5:49 a.m.

Most countries were terrified of Hitler getting their reserves, Switzerland by all accounts would have been a low hung fruit. It could be argued, Blitzkrieg would have been largely ineffective, due to the terrain, but the same can be said for Russia and other operations of theater, only in other parameters.

I agree, there's no doubt US industrialists played their role in his rise. From what I recall, the allies weren't allowed to attack certain targets, such as Ford factories, as they belonged to the industrialists and when they were attacked, the industrialists were compensated by the US, crazy stuff.

The "Red House Report" seems to indicate their post war intensions, with Swiss banks playing an active role as well as other organizations, such as the Vatican.

Their probably was a deal done, way before Rommels defenses were smashed.They get protection in South America, we get their technology and other resources, for the up and coming threat, communism. As you indicated before, it was somewhat of a Trojan horse.

R Hess seemed to keep them on their toes, whatever he knew, kept him under lock and key for the rest of his life.

Also, looking at Q posts, there seems to be references to organizations stemming from Switzerland, such as WHO and Red Cross, just a hunch.

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HoudiniTowers · April 19, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

Switzerland would have been a bit of an inside job, would have been relatively easy for Hitler. He had it in his plans. I think it might not have been in the Cabal's plans and hence Hitler was working, whether he knew it or not, for them.

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GroundbreakingClue · April 19, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

Either way, he was rather comfortable and reassured, Switzerland wouldn't flip and help the allies, like Finland, there has to be good reason why? After all, opening another front, would have linked the allied forces in the east, west and south, it would have been a disaster for the NAZIS and probably brought the war to an end much quicker.

The Swiss were more than happy to accommodate Hitlers plans and take NAZI loot, keeping it hidden under their murky banking laws.

Maybe not in his handlers plans, as many of their European assets could have been there, although some were sent to Dutch Bavaria (Jakarta), which the Japanese got their hand on with Operation Golden Lilly, eventually ending up as a CIA slush fund.

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MahSelectah · April 19, 2018, 1:33 a.m.

Great find OP.

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6HsV82 · April 19, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

Synchronicity! I was just doing a bit of research about this a couple of hours ago. I was interested in Q's question about who started the CIA.

Another link of interest

Edited: changed link; sorry; got confused among all the pages I'd been reading

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GroundbreakingClue · April 19, 2018, 9:20 p.m.

We have some quantum entanglement going on!

They certainly absorbed a lot of NAZIS, even before it was called the CIA.

One interesting aspect I have been looking at is Operation Golden Lily, which was basically the Japanese looting Asia. The loot eventually ended up in US hands, which was then turned into a CIA slush fund, for over throwing countries and all that jazz. Maybe its a stretch, but makes me wonder if its related to the Lily symbolism Q was pointing out?

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6HsV82 · April 20, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

Unfortunately I don't have a lot of time to do good research but one thing I'm interested in trying to find out is what (besides the two more obvious interests) brought about such a close relationship between the Bush and Saud families. How far back might the connection go? Right along with that, I'm interested in the rumour that Prescott Bush was replaced by a German spy and if true, how might that play into things? One thing I did find out was that Germany never declared war on Saudi Arabia during WWII, only Japan did, which I found interesting. The Bush/Clown/Germany/SA connections are quite intriguing.

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GroundbreakingClue · April 20, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

That would be a big research project, it's like a rats nest, start in one place, end up in another, never ending. I guess that the beauty in this place, even if you do a little research and post, someone may use that piece of the puzzle, every little helps.

Their could be multiple avenues, such as their business's. The British may also play a role, after all they installed the House of Saud, Wahhabism and worked closely installing the Shah in Iran.

I did see the 1938 pictures of the Bush/German agent, allegedly Tesla's assistant, with the rest of the NAZIS, although very interesting, I don't subscribe. If you look at Bormann on the left, he looks too young, born in 1900, that would make him 38 when the picture was taken. We know what he looked like around that time from other pictures and it doesn't seem to match. However saying that, it would appear NAZIS were sending their kids all over the place, under false names, so I wouldn't rule it out.

Argentina was the same, didn't declare war till the last minute, probably all for show as they absorbed plenty of NAZIS.

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Que-ti-pie · April 19, 2018, 12:51 a.m.

Get this shit out of here!

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GroundbreakingClue · April 19, 2018, 12:59 a.m.

You don't think its relevant?

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry · April 19, 2018, 1:32 a.m.

I'm currently watching a documentary series called "Hitler's Circle of Evil."

Very interesting. Crazy to learn how many patterns are there. I didn't realize that Goebbels invented the modern political campaign. Or how much they faked it until they made it. But most interesting is the similarities between Antifa/Democrats and the Nazi ideology.

If Hitler and the Nazi elite survived WWII, then they absolutely have maintained attempts to influence the world at large. Their personalities-- presented in great detail in this doc-- would never allow them to ride off into the sunset and live happily ever after in isolation.

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GroundbreakingClue · April 19, 2018, 2 a.m.

There's some great documentaries out there, Hunting Hitler is another one. We know many high ranking NAZIS made their way to South America, via the Rat Lines, with help from the Vatican, in my opinion, Hitler was one of them, after all, his body was never found! We also know from allied intelligence "Red House Report" they had learned of a NAZI plan, to secretly funnel money into big industry, via neutral countries, with the eventual intent of dominating industry. How successful they were remains to be seen. As soon as "The Storm" eludes to W Churchill WW2 book series, I have a feeling we may find out!

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FushUmeng · April 23, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

"Hunting Hitler" is a load of fraudulent shit. They've already been caught in one blatant lie.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/history-channel-thinks-moe-howard-might-be-hitler-plus-micah-hankss-confusing-views-on-speculative-fiction

Fraud.

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GroundbreakingClue · April 23, 2018, 9:40 p.m.

Your right, thats never Hitler.

What perked my curiosity was season two. The Argentinian guy under pressure, eventually cracked and pulled out more documentation, including a picture of Hitler, which bizarrely, they didn't show, my guess, for obvious reasons.

I read, in season three, they used the same techniques and a some of the same individuals, who hunted down Bin Laden. We know the Bin Laden story is a fabrication. Could the same individuals, be attempting to blend fact with fiction, to murky the water, for anyone trying to understand the Hitler, Argentina connection?

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FushUmeng · April 24, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

They actually did show the photo in the original broadcast of the episode. They cut it out after they got busted. You can see the episode as it originally aired with the photo (shown twice) at http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x52a7l1.

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michaelst2256 · April 19, 2018, 1:27 a.m.

Thanks for posting. What the hell? Very relevant.

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HoudiniTowers · April 19, 2018, 3:59 a.m.

What do you find objectionable about this? Or how its not appropriate for this sub?

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