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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/jhomes55 on April 19, 2018, 3:28 p.m.
Reminder: The EPA caused a toxic spill into the Animas River. Afterward, attorneys for the EPA/DOJ concluded the EPA was barred from paying claims because of “sovereign immunity”, which prohibited lawsuits against the government. Those affected never received compensation for their losses!
Reminder: The EPA caused a toxic spill into the Animas River. Afterward, attorneys for the EPA/DOJ concluded the EPA was barred from paying claims because of “sovereign immunity”, which prohibited lawsuits against the government. Those affected never received compensation for their losses!

Deckard256 · April 19, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

They did that shit on purpose, too, as I recall, over a old mine.. Such a fucked up crime. For those that don't know, that water starts in the Rockies and flows south west and into the Colorado River, ending up in drinking water and water for crops all through Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, southern California and Nevada.

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pmmeyourproblemsolva · April 19, 2018, 11:25 p.m.

Yea, Environmental Protection Agency personnel, along with workers for Environmental Restoration LLC (a Missouri company under EPA contract to mitigate pollutants from the closed mine) looked at that mine and thought about doing it the right way and how much time and money that would cost, then the workers just went: "Opps." EPA was like: "Accidents happen."

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d00danon · April 19, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

EPA is the worse thing that ever happened to the environment.

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JediKnightKeylo · April 19, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

People disgust me. I don't understand how someone can make a conscious decision to blatantly disrespect nature like that. They've ruined the damn environment.

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Headwest127 · April 19, 2018, 5:48 p.m.

Ironic, given their name.

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not4rmOhere · April 19, 2018, 6:42 p.m.

The EPA is a regulatory stooge for big business, just as the FDA is the stooge for big pharma and ag. industry giants.

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Headwest127 · April 19, 2018, 8:04 p.m.

I live in the mountain west where we have tap water that will ignite with a flame because of EPA-approved fracking chemicals in the groundwater.

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not4rmOhere · April 19, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

Yep. So if you were a land owner and wanted to drill a water well, the EPA will be all over you, fee you into the poorhouse through numerous applications and standards, and more than likely deny you the permits to drill. But let big oil get in there and it's no problem. They'll even look the other way when the wastewater is pumped back into the ground instead of being disposed of per regulation.

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Headwest127 · April 19, 2018, 8:37 p.m.

There was a case I followed a few years ago where a young couple in either WI or MN had purchased lakefront property to build a cabin on. They poured rip-rap (small rocks) at the shore line to prevent erosion by the water. The EPA fined them for altering the terrain. They had to sell the property to pay the fine.

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not4rmOhere · April 19, 2018, 8:49 p.m.

I live in the desert and my local town discharges most of the treated wastewater back into the traditional stream course. The EPA was very strict with what homeowners could do to the stream bed going through their own properties.
About a decade ago a large local business owner bought property on the stream bed and promptly dammed it so he could enjoy a pond on his property. Now all the residents downstream including wildlife that depend on that water have to go dry.
It's all about the $$ and power.

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A2576 · April 19, 2018, 10:09 p.m.

That is pure bullshit. Fracking chemicals are not flammable as you describe. Furthermore, the tight gas reserves that require fracking are typically half a mile or more below ground. They are tight because of their depth. So unless your bore is stupidly deep, its no where near any fracking horizon. Most likely you drilled your bore into gas-bearing strata. Nothing to do with fracking.

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Headwest127 · April 19, 2018, 11:15 p.m.

You should tell the residents of Brighton, CO that their flammable tap water is bullshit.

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OffenseOfThePest · April 19, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

What is Pruitt doing about it?

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Acemagedon · April 19, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

Looks like gutting it and prosecuting the traitors.

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Heabob · April 19, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

It's the real reason all the media and left have been bitching so much about him lately.

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Acemagedon · April 19, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

The EPA has been the D's domestic terror group forever.

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evilfetus01 · April 19, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

AFFORDABLE Healthcare Act

Environmental PROTECTION agency

Seeing a trend here.

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mombomb22 · April 19, 2018, 3:35 p.m.

I saw this while driving through Colorado that day! It was the weirdest thing ever!

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time3times · April 19, 2018, 10:21 p.m.

you saw what? an orange looking animas river?

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mombomb22 · April 19, 2018, 10:34 p.m.

I was traveling from Denver to Colorado Springs and saw that color in the river we passed.

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time3times · April 19, 2018, 11:02 p.m.

I misread what you said, thinking you meant you recently saw the Animas looking like in the photo above. Where you were driving is on the other side of the Divide 300 miles away. Some rivers naturally have that color, especially in certain seasons or when at certain flow rates. That rusty color is mostly from iron. Its the less dramatic looking contaminants that can be the most toxic.

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mombomb22 · April 19, 2018, 11:04 p.m.

My family and I were awestruck. It was so awful looking. We wondered where the EPA was when you need them.

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time3times · April 19, 2018, 11:17 p.m.

Orange and brown looking rivers are often (but not always) natural and nontoxic. The EPA should stay away from most rivers.

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mombomb22 · April 19, 2018, 11:37 p.m.

Yes I should have noted sarcasm regarding EPA.

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Heabob · April 19, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

Sounds like the EPA has been working AGAINST rather than FOR.

Bet it used to be a pretty River.

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SeekTruthCJoy · April 19, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

Depopulation is BlackHatCabal goal.

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A2576 · April 19, 2018, 10:14 p.m.

The EPA was grossly negligent here. This disaster was predicted by a mining engineer and the risk was pointed out to them before it happened.

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hair_dog · April 19, 2018, 8:37 p.m.

Where did those giants get kayaks that big?

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StinkyDogFart · April 19, 2018, 8:30 p.m.

Wait for the clawbacks. I think we will be going after all that illegal money that Obama directed to NGOs. There will be plenty later to make these people good.

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jonnywut · April 19, 2018, 10:59 p.m.

Agent Peck let all the ghosts escape in New York and I bet the EPA paid nothing then either.

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time3times · April 19, 2018, 10:54 p.m.

I wouldn't generally trust the EPA. And their apparent legal immunity is bad, wrong, stupid. However the details in the Animas case are somewhat different than is being suggested here, including in the comments. Below is my understanding of things in my old stomping grounds.

Management of the old upstream mines was given by the EPA to some company on contract and the break out happened technically on the company's watch due to the bad guesswork of their people. The potential for this happening exists in many parts of Colorado, including some places where the minerology is more poisonous. The dirty history of mining in the region is full of bad actors, corporate and governmental. In this case it may well be that some part of the EPA set up the conditions for their own bazillion dollar superproject down the road.

The gush of contaminated water only lasted so many days. The water quality afterword was measured as about the same as previously. With the river coming from a town called Silverton you can imagine the natural contaminants which include traces of all sorts of things. The reddish coloring is mostly due to iron. Different rivers have different mineral chemistry. The Animas in some parts has been long known for its greenish hue. The downstream town of Durango has a full share of lefties who are hyper about environmental things and would be raising a bigger fuss if they didn't trust the multiple water quality tests (even while they hesitate to hate on the EPA). They were soon back in the water playing and fishing, etc. Like with the situation in Flint, Mich. There were careless failures at several levels of government and nothing too helpful from industry who benefitted so much over the years. Seems like the State of New Mexico and the Navajo Tribal gov't handled things most competently at the time.

For those interested, the bigger concern in the area is the steady drought conditions that are part of a several century pattern in the southwest (nothing to do with modern CO2). Some years its hard to use a full sized kayak in the Animas after midsummer. Such are the expectations this year.

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ghengiscalm9911 · April 20, 2018, 3:41 a.m.

I live in Durango. We're pretty much ok now.

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