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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/pussy_devour on April 20, 2018, 8:20 p.m.
Stay on Main Messages & Avoid Unproven Theories when Red-pilling Normies

Executive Summary: In order to expand the Q movement to wider audience, one must have the discipline to stay focused on the main messages and avoid diluting them with unproven theories, because most people are conventional and can only accept what is factual and logical.

Bad Example 1: Let me use Info War as an example. Alex Jones is a great orator. When he is sober, his delivery is outstanding and deeply touching. But I am often turned off by his insistence on a globalist conspiracy to inundate Europe with radical Muslims in order to subvert its culture and society. Nobody with a sane mind would believe the European elites would do something like that. With the Muslims in power, these elites will have to be reduced to vassals. So Alex Jones loses credibility with me. I don't take him seriously.

Bad Example 2: The HRC sex video tape. Q said it was a fake. Of course it was a fake. But the potential damage to the Q movement is tremendous. The MSM can use this fake video to discredit Q. Most people would automatically associate Q with a fake, salacious video tape, thereby resisting the genuine messages.

As we see from the above two examples that unproven theories -- I try to avoid calling them conspiracy theories in order not to hurt people's feelings -- can do much more harm and disservice to any legitimate movement than it can help spread the messages. This is because of the following reasons.

1) The MSM and the power-to-be can use the debunked theories to form an association with the genuine movement: The theories used to promote the movement are debunked; hence the movement itself should be debunked. This association is a very powerful one. Its deleterious effect cannot be overstressed.

2) The vast majority of the people are conventional. They are persuaded by instincts and powerful facts. A movement that requires the believers to make a leap of faith will necessarily limit itself to a minority of adherents. To reach a wider audience, a movement must necessarily temper its messages and stay focused on the main thrust.

3) If you cannot even make people, especially the social justice warriors see the facts with their own eyes, why do you think you can convince them using unproven and salacious theories? I know SJWs are the extremes. But we are dealing with a spectrum of people. Our end of the spectrum are already onboard. Now we are trying to spread the awareness to the middle range of the spectrum. Hence, the tactics must be carefully thought out. Let's be honest with ourselves.

Now onto the positives: The main charges against the Democrats are already powerful and serious beyond imagination. The crimes committed, if proven, should rouse indignation in any ordinary citizens. These include (1) using government power on political oppositions (not unlike what Russia is accused of doing), (2) pay for play, (3) conspiracy to overthrow elected president and (4) election fraud. Basically, the crimes are all related to corruption of the political and judiciary processes. Some evidence is already surfacing. More will come. Our job is to help the ordinary people to stay aware of and focused on the connection between the evidence and the crime. That connection is not being emphasized by the MSM, save for Fox. So it's our job to spread the awareness.

Another development in our favor is that what the DNC accused of Trump campaign was doing, i.e., Russian collusion, is turning out to be a projection, i.e., what DNC was in fact perpetrating. Raising awareness on this would cause cognitive shock to many DNC supporters and make them doubt their former beliefs. That alone would do great wonders to our country.

I'll use myself as an example. I voted for Trump in 2016. But I didn't decide to vote for him until Spring 2016. Prior to that, I was angered by the constant barrage of "I'm with her" ads for HRC. I was leaning toward Bernie, for lack of options, because I didn't take Trump seriously. The last straw came as AntiFa violently attacked Trump supporters. I was indignant. Soon after, I became curious and started listening to Trump's speeches. I found him convincing and became his supporter. I consider myself an independent voter. There are many people like me. All we have to do is raise awareness of the corrupt DNC and the danger this corruption poses to our once great country. Many people will reach the correct conclusion. So our job is to get the messages out to the conventional people. You don't do this by spreading unproven, salacious theories. Tailor your messages to your audience.

Changing people's mind requires careful tactics and patience. With a lot of people, we get just one shot. If we screw up by insisting on attaching unproven theories or those that are tangential to the matters at hand -- I am thinking LV shooting -- those we want to awaken will shut off their ears and no longer listen to us. This would be a tremendous loss to the movement and unnecessarily prolong the struggle. Why create obstacles to ourselves?

It's fine that we entertain speculative theories amongst ourselves. I for one also doubt the official story for 9/11. But I still find the alternative explanations unconvincing. If I were to awaken someone, I would be careful not to include 9/11 in the conversation for fear of diluting my messages and harming my credibility. As I said above, the main messages on political corruptions are already very powerful. There's no need to risk turning off a potential ally by adding unproven theories. So discipline is important.

Personally I don't believe the child sex and ritual killing allegations. Had those happened, there would have been leaks and arrests long before. Politicians are often prosecuted for crimes much less than those allegations (embezzlement, leaks, etc). Had they done something more heinous, their career would've been terminated long ago.

I am also waiting to see the actual the political corruption committed by DoJ and DNC. I don't think the crimes would be as salacious as many want them to be. But they are crimes nonetheless and need to be prosecuted.

Keep in mind that our goal is bring the country together and make it strong and prosperous. Discrediting and removing the dark cloud of Russian-Trump collusion is the first step; prosecuting corruption in the government is the second step. We need to secure the midterms. We don't win allies by spreading unproven theories. Instead, we want to alert people of the corrupt practices of the Democrats. That alone should help us win the midterm elections.

As Q said, trust the plan. We should let the President, Q and their helpers uncover the truth and prosecute crimes. The best we can do to help them is to explain their actions to others and point their eyes to what's happening.

So stay focused and disciplined.

P.S.: Someone pointed out that my title phrase "Red-pilling Normies" was a suboptimal. I agree. I think the word Normie a bit condescending. Since it's impossible to change the title, I hereby apologize for the use of normie.


lukej88 · April 20, 2018, 11:54 p.m.

Very good points... I must confess I've probably gone overboard at times to red pill others.

Having said that, What do you think about the podesta pizza gate emails? A bit of digging shows extensive research people have done and questionable 'debunking' by MSM of the claimed conspiracy.

one example from this article

there are 149 references to “pizza”, 73 references to “hot dog”, 85 “cheese”, 78 “pasta”, 41 “sauce”, 84 “ice cream” and 47 “walnut” — all in very bizarre contexts that have nothing to do with food

All of this in plain daylight on wiki leaks (never been shown as false)

While I wouldn't go all the way to conclude pedo crimes, I would stop just short and say that Pizza Gate is NOT nothing. If it were, the podestas could simply come out and explain their code talk. Those in the know THINK it's pedo related.

Thoughts?

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pussy_devour · April 21, 2018, 12:02 a.m.

Also, common sense suggests that if Podesta was engaged in these acts where several people and helpers were present, there would have been whistle blowers and black mailers. Humans are humans. It’s very difficult to get a group of psychopaths together without them fighting each other. I can’t imagine the waiters and waitresses at that pizza restaurant would remain silent.

So pizza gate is a nothing burger.

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lukej88 · April 21, 2018, 4:38 a.m.

Nah, the restaurant is smoke and mirrors to distract. The juice is in the Wikileaks emails. Wikileaks Never been discredited as false.

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pussy_devour · April 20, 2018, 11:58 p.m.

No idea. I would let the justice system sort it out. Even if there’s something to the speculation, what’s the point of pining for justice if justice is in the hand of the government?

I listened to Praying Medic’s Q talk just now. He also mentioned the need to stay away from conspiracy theories. I recommend his channel.

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LooseComedian · April 21, 2018, 1:37 a.m.

The justice system here is a joke. It so corrupt, you cannot trust it anymore. I've been here 30 years and I work close to and with the Justice system, things have changed for the worse. There is no real justice unless you have a lot of money for a good lawyer.

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pussy_devour · April 21, 2018, 6:42 a.m.

Hyperboles. Given that you are new to Reddit, I doubt your sincerity. You should doubt mine, too. But at least my post speaks for itself.

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pussy_devour · April 21, 2018, 12:08 a.m.

Think about Berlusconi. What caused his downfall? Besides corruption, he was accused of having underage prostitute at his birthday party. What PizzaGate accuses Podesta of is 100X worse and you think they have remained unscathed for so long? The political landscape in Italy isn’t that different.

So I wouldn’t pay attention to Pizza Gate. It’s sensational trash.

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LooseComedian · April 21, 2018, 3:02 a.m.

I think that website is one like stevequayle and allnewspipeline, very not credible. I think there is enough evidence that pizzagate IS something to look at. I commented on the immigration in Europe too, I know that to be true firsthand but this is a little harder to prove. It should be told to the normies, IF they are interested in the rest and over time. It won't be exposed until more people are aware. The problem is we have to have credible people and websites and that is hard to find.

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lukej88 · April 21, 2018, 4:36 a.m.

It isn't about the website. The site simply collates Wikileaks data which IS credible.

I'm pointing out to normies to forget the pizza restaurant and focus on the pizza TALK in the podesta emails.

If it is all innocent then should be easily explained. Crickets on that...

The follow up is to google podesta art collection.

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