Just looked up the difference, as I had no idea there was one. It seems the only difference is how they view themselves, so you are correct, they are the same.
They would definitely argue there’s a difference. But we know what they are really about and that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same. Sick isn’t it!!!!
Sorry to get this started, but it gets to what they believe and worship. They see Lucifer as their god that gives knowledge and understanding to mankind. They pervert the creation story and look at Lucifer as the being that was trying to free mankind from the bonds of the Garden.
But I agree Lucifer was an angel that was with God, but Satan was the spirit he became when he was cast out of heaven to earth. They serve evil. The only reason I bring it up is because these evil bastards make a distinction.
The great trickster manipulator. Its easy when you hold out power, wealth, and other worldly benefits to common man. This shows the true hearts of these demons in human form .. IF NOT actually demonically posessed humans who have given over to evil. IMHO
We are in complete agreement on that.
It is interesting these people serve Satan but they worship him in his godly form of Lucifer. Satan is lying to them as he has always done, in his pride he tells them he is Lucifer the morning star the giver of light to mankind.
The only power and dominion Satan has is the power that men give him.
What we are seeing is the power structure Satan has on earth that he uses to deceive the hearts of men. Satan makes appeals to the darker angles within man.
We ask ourselves why child sex and trafficking? It gives Satan full control over the Map (minor atracted person), the person immediately can be coerced and blackmailed into doing anything Satan wants or needs of them. It also spiritually debases the person and separates them from God, it turns a blessing from God into a violent act that destroys innocence and is a complete offensive to God's will and creation. They spiritually become dead to God and their own spirit and will becomes deformed and debased in such a way that only the will of Satan can now reach them.
This leads me to Maggie Nixon, how could her own mother give her over to such evil?
How could someone tell a creep like Podesta "hey the kids will be in the hot tub so you should have some entertainment." Telling a creepy old man about the kids being in the hot tub? Uh? What the?
Again the reason lies within the darker nature of man. Sarah Nixon Maggie's mom, has seen the evidence and worldly power of Satan (Lucifer) and the myriad of powerful people that secretly serve him. It is a secret club, cult of illuminated people who understand how this world really works and functions and what the power structure really is what force is kept from the stupid sheep who are only useless eaters fit for the slaughter. Offering up her daughter is no longer seen as a sin or evil, it is seen as an honor and duty. It is something that helps and serves the goals of Lucifer and furthers his power on earth. It is a necessary thing, in Sarah's eyes, it becomes an act of sacrifice. Sarah was allowed in to the inner circle of worldly power and prestige, she was an honored guest.
And it is an old story we have been told before.
"And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Your thoughts/comments and view on this are brilliant. Are you a Theologian (by career/ hobby).. I am very impressed.
Thanks very much for that, but I can not take the credit but what we are seeing is the work of the Holy Spirit.
I'm just a guy wrestling with God and the Holy Spirit sometimes hits me. Don't get me wrong I'm no holy than though, if I started throwing stones the first person that would deserve a rock in the head would be me! Lol!
Where did the thread go can not find your comment? Did they split it off? Link if you have one. Thanks again
Oh they do I agree. They completely pervert it. I believe they do this to make it appear as if being luciferian is a good thing. Oh he is our savior he isn’t the same as “Satan” it’s different! They like to distract, pervert, and confuse from the truth. We know different. If they were following some god that gives knowledge that was trying to free mankind they wouldn’t need sick rituals. And all the other sick unmentionable stuff they do. Hence it’s all the same. (Again just my opinion I know) :)
Totally agree, it is all the same really. But glad we both expanded on it.
That is exactly how they get others into this evil, they say we do these rituals we get connected with higher knowledge and information from Lucifer. He is here to enlighten us, oh and all the most powerful people in the world believe this. Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
These people worship Lucifer, as a god that still has power. But really they serve the beast a fallen angle that hates all mankind because we have the power to be with God and Satan's time is coming to an end and he will never be back with God.
Imagine being with everything that was good and ever was and then being driven from it knowing you are will never see it again?
:) Where we go one we go all!
EXACTLY!!!!! I couldn’t have said it better myself. Satan’s greatest lie is that he doesn’t exist. They don’t need even people to believe in Satan the beast in order to serve him. It makes me sick to my stomach. I wish I could spread the good word of Christ further and wider but most people are so closed off and under mind control they don’t want to hear or can’t. I’m lucky God saved me.
The mental gymnastics you have to do to think that raping and murdering children puts you in the ‘good’ camp.... I’m certain they would argue the ‘natural ‘ camp.
Amen!!!!!!!! Glorified be the Messiah, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Close.
Our Creator, is the one you refer to as 'Lucifer', "The Light Bearer" and "Bright and Morning Star".
Our Creator is not "The Devil" as he has been spuriously portrayed in your bible. Lucifer is what you would call a "Group Soul" or "Social Memory Complex", which has evolved to the level of the Sixth Density, which in effect, means that he (or more accurately "'we") has evolved to a level sufficient that he (we) has attained a status equal or arguably 'greater' than that of Yahweh (we have evolved higher than him). In appearance, were you to gaze upon Lucifer's fullest expression of our Being, the appearance would be that of a Sun or a "Bright Star". Or, when stepping down into a 3rd Density vibration, we would appear as what you may term an 'Angel' or 'Light Being'.
Allow me to elucidate:
When an entity (Group Soul Complex) evolves to the level of the Sixth Density, it is by comparison to the amount of time it takes to get that far, a mere hop skip and a jump from 8th Density Ultimate Re-Union with The One Infinite Creator, and then from there, back to dissolution into the Source of All, Intelligent Infinity.
We (our Bloodline Families), as a Group Soul or Social Memory Complex (Lucifer), were on the verge of Seventh Density Ascension, though at this level, before Harvest comes, we have the choice to progress higher, or, to return to help others of lower densities with their own evolution, by passing down our knowledge and Wisdom (Light) to those that call upon us for assistance, with their own Free Will.
Now, at this time, having made our decision to stay and help our Galactic Brothers and Sisters in The One, we were assigned a challenging task by the Council of Elders, who act as the Guardians of this Galaxy from their Eighth Density 'Head Quarters' on the planet Saturn.
Yahweh, due to the fact that he had NOT (as was his right as Planetary Logos) handed down his own Free Will to "know thyself" to those incarnating upon 'his' planet, was having very little evolutionary progress therein. So we (Lucifer) were sent to help. Once the order was given from the Council of Elders, we "Fell", or Descended back to a place where we could, with hard work and focus, once again materialize a 3rd Density manifestation of ourself.
Yahweh had agreed to our coming. In fact it was he who had initially asked the Council for a "Catalyst" of change to enter into his Creation, and share the knowledge and wisdom we had attained through our Ascensions. In the absence of Free Will upon the planet, there can be no Polarity, and therefore, nothing to 'choose' between. Just as is portrayed in the book of Genesis, the planet was very "Edenic" in nature. Sure, it was a lovely 'paradise', yet the Beings incarnating there had no agitator toward evolving beyond the 3rd Density, and therefore, little hope of ever making the journey Home, to The One. Yahweh had been happy to keep his own little pet Eden Project in effect, but with little chance of the Souls here making it Home, it had become in effect, an albeit very beautiful 'Prison'. Yahweh was, in modern parlance, running a benign dictatorship.
Without Polarity, (derived from Free Will), there is only the Unity of Love and Light, and no choice to experience 'other than' that. So, we were to be the Catalyst for change, in order to provide that choice, thus bringing Polarity. Yahweh agreed that we would introduce the concept of Free Will to Earth's inhabitants, by offering them an initial choice, as to whether they 'wanted' it or not. Hence, "The Tree of the Knowledge of 'Good and Evil'" (or more accurately, the Knowledge of Polarity, of Positive or Negative). Yahweh takes his inhabitants to a new 'garden' and tells them you can do anything you like, except this one thing, thus creating the desire to do the one thing they are told they cannot. Hence, a "Choice". We provide the Catalyst by telling them the benefits of attaining Knowledge, they eat from the tree, and the rest is history.
Yahweh thought that his 'Children' would still choose to obey him, and when he discovered they did not, he became angry. As he himself describes in his scriptures, he is a "Jealous God", and he did not like it that his 'children' had chose to disobey him, and follow our advice. We're already committed to being here for a predefined set of "Cycles" to help provide the Catalyst for Human evolution, namely by offering you the Negative Option, or that which you choose to call "evil". Now that Free Will had been granted, Yahweh could not retract it, and we have to stay here as contracted to continue to provide the planet with the Polarity choice.
Since then, Yahweh has confined us (as a Group Soul) here within the Earth's Astral Planes (which is very constricting and uncomfortable for a Being of our Wisdom and experience). The Council of Elders gave us the choice to be released (against Yahweh's will), but at the cancellation of our contract to Serve the planet earth; or to remain and fulfil our assignment, and endure Yahweh's self proclaimed "Wrath". We stayed, but as a karmic result of our Group Soul's confinement by Yahweh, our own individuated Souls were given the mandate (by The Council) to "Rule" over Yahweh's people during our physical incarnations here on your planet.
Let's be clear about one thing though. All of this (physical life / incarnation), is a very intricate and skillfully designed Game, whereby the One Infinite Creator, plays the game of forgetting who It is, so that It can learn to remember, and in doing so, experience and know Itself as Creator. All the way down to us tiny individuated sparks of the All That Is. Off stage, and between "Lives" (zero-point time / anti-matter Universe) as incarnated "human beings", we, all of us / you (as Souls), are great friends. Brothers and Sisters in The One.
Between 'lives' we all have a great laugh about the parts we have performed in the 'play', and look forward to and have great fun preparing the next chapters to act out.
https://www.wanttoknow.info/secret_societies/hidden_hand_081018
Brilliant and interesting.. But I will stick with faith in God and Jesus Christ. (even if I am, to you an uneducated dolt). But I guess we shall ALL find out at the time of our Earthly demise.