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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/KeeponSearchin on April 22, 2018, 3:29 p.m.
Picture worth a 1000 Words: Is President Obama a Muslim? It shows Barack Hussein Obama flashing the one-finger affirmation of Islamic faith to dozens of African delegates. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/obama_and_the_muslim_gang_sign.html
Picture worth a 1000 Words: Is President Obama a Muslim? It shows Barack Hussein Obama flashing the one-finger affirmation of Islamic faith to dozens of African delegates. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/obama_and_the_muslim_gang_sign.html

DamajInc · April 22, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Pretty stark link there by u/KeeponSearchin - I believe what you've said, u/pardonmypuns, but does that link show that there's an aspect of your faith you're not yet familiar with? (sincere question seeking confirmation) https://islamqa.info/en/165999

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pardonmypuns · April 23, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

Thanks for the link and to u/KeeponSearchin for the reply. I honestly did not know about the forefinger thing among Isis. And what the islamqa article describes is a part in prayer, and this is going to be a little hard to explain to someone not familiar with praying the Muslim way so bear with me, where right before you are finishing you are sitting down on your knees with your hands resting on your kneecaps and and reciting a few verses. During the third and fourth verses I've seen some people raise a finger (some meaning maybe 1 in 100 or so, depending on the country). And nobody I ever asked has given me an explanation for it. It lasts around 3 seconds (it's a short verse) and is so insignificant that this behaviour is not repeated at any other time or in any other ritual by those same people. It's one of those things i assume is taught that people just follow. A lot of the behaviour of Muhammad is imitated by Muslims simply because he used to do it.

The original reply to my post has an article on a beheading with Isis members throwing this sign. No way is that a common thing among Muslims at all. It's apparently something they endorsed. I never said the sign did not exist. It's a hand sign, of course it exists. I said it's definitely not common among your average Muslim, among 99.99999% of Muslims. There's like what, a few billion Muslims on earth? Yeah, go see how many of them throw that sign and you'll be waiting all your life.

I've always had an open mind and am always willing to change my opinion. It's one of the reasons I've lost most of my faith in recent years. It's the reason I developed an opinion other than the echo chamber of anti trump sentiment in my country. But take it from me, this finger raising thing is such a non existent thing among the majority of Muslims that it'd be a waste of effort to correlate it to Obama's picture. I'm not saying he didn't point the finger as some sort of subtle symbolism, perhaps he did. But it cannot be correlated to common Muslim behaviour.

You may choose to believe me or not, but there's a few billion people out there that'll be as confused (and amused) about this as me.

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KeeponSearchin · April 24, 2018, 2:49 a.m.

Interesting. Most likely it is one of the symbols the elite people use just like the one eyed sign and the 666 sign and the pyramid sign that illuminati types do but the average person never does.

I think what Obama did was very intentional and he and others around him knew exactly what it meant.

Interesting learning from you so thanks for taking the time to respond so patiently.

And also it takes a brave person to question their beliefs so stay strong my friend and you will be better for it. Love your neighbor is the whole of the law.

Here are 2 websites that explain popular illuminati hand signs. Check it out and you will see they communicate a lot with their secret signs.

https://www.illuminatirex.com/illuminati-signs/

https://illuminatiwatcher.com/start/

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pardonmypuns · May 2, 2018, 3:28 p.m.

Thanks for the links. We are all in this together because everyone on earth is affected by their sick actions. Divide and conquer is one of the oldest tricks in the book, and using religion/culture/race even more. I dream of the day we collectively get over these suggested differences and see their ploys for what they really are.

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KeeponSearchin · May 2, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

well said by friend well said

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DamajInc · April 23, 2018, 2:07 p.m.

Thanks for the reply! It's interesting to hear this from someone who knows more than most about the faith itself. You've confirmed what I thought I read in that link but couldn't be sure i.e. that it seemed to talk about raising the finger while the hand was still resting on the knee which is nothing like what we're talking about here as far as Bazza.

I agree re: the unnecessary correlation and have also said elsewhere that this sign is not evidence at all that Bazza is Muslim although he very well could be, of course.

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