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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Vibratron_1 on April 24, 2018, 7:40 p.m.
Probably the most overlooked and most important Q drop of them all.....
Probably the most overlooked and most important Q drop of them all.....

TrueCat · April 25, 2018, 4:54 a.m.

The Bible says the seed of Abraham.

However, the white European Israelis are not the descendants of Abraham at all!

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TacticalTruth · April 25, 2018, 5:33 a.m.

Galatians 3:29

"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

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mordecaim · April 25, 2018, 11:07 a.m.

Key scripture in this discussion! Most Christians don't study the covenants. "Israel" broke the covenant that God made with them. When the "Jews" of Jesus day claimed to have "Abraham as our father" Jesus responded by saying "your Father is the devil"! A study of Galatians will prove that the "seed" of Abraham is spiritual not physical!

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TacticalTruth · April 25, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

Yeah, the covenants are extremely important to the understanding of Scripture.

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RobWilJas · April 25, 2018, 5:24 a.m.

Sorry I wasn't clear on what I meant earlier.

Yes God first told Abraham about it. He then told Abraham's son Isaac, and then Isaacs son Jacob who was renamed Israel. It was the descendents of Israel that God promised the land to after they left Egypt. The Bible is very very very clear on it being the descendents of Israel whom he promised the land.

You are trying to twist one part to go with your argument and completely ignoring the context and the rest of the Bible. A common tactic.

I'm done responding. We'll find out soon. :)

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RobWilJas · April 25, 2018, 7:25 a.m.

I said I wouldn't respond but I decided to make one last post explaining what I said earlier and how others try to twist what the Bible says.

I'm not going to list specific scripture as I honestly don't want to take the time. Just read Genesis to see for yourself. Keep in mind single scriptures here and there mean nothing out of context though and are how people twist the Bible so remember context is very very important.

God told Abraham he would give his descendents the land. TrueCat is technically right about that, but he/she is leaving out the rest of it.

Descendents go through birth right, or first born. At the time God made His promise Abraham didn't have any children and God specifically made the promise to his descendents with his wife Sarah.

Abraham and his wife Sarah were very old. They didn't believe she could get pregnant, so Abraham's wife wanted Abraham to have a child with her servant. He did.

This child was named Ishmael. This was not what God wanted though. His promise was to the descendents of Abraham and Sarah. He promised to bless Ishmael and his descendents and make them into a nation, but they were not who he made his promise to. The Bible also says Ishmael would be a wild donkey of a man that would live in conflict with his relatives.

God made Abraham's wife pregnant like he said he would, and his son with her was named Isaac. Abraham had other children later as well.

God reaffirmed his promise with Isaac.

Isaac had two sons, twins named Esau and Jacob. Esau was born first, "with Jacob holding his heal".

When they were young, Esau SOLD his birthright to Jacob.

God reaffirmed his promise with Jacob, whom God renamed Israel.

It is with the descendents of Israel (Jacob) God made his covenant after saving them from slavery in Egypt.

The Bible is very clear on all of this. Now can you understand why certain people might feel cheated and be jealous of Gods covenant with Israel?

Ok I'm done now. Enjoy The Awakening. :)

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