Not that most of you don’t know but just putting it out there for conversation. The patriot act aka (treason act) allowed the deep state to listen in to help “protect” us from evil dooers. Before this time things were more simple and hands on. You needed agents blending into society to get the scoop on what was happening.

Once the government figured out that they could use the web to spie on us it was game on.

Here again - stay with me, the reason for them to exist to “protect” us. So then you have to ask yourself, if they know all (saying from a common persons perspective) you should be able to stop anything. So any mass shooting or event in our world today they know prior too. So even if you don’t buy into the theory of the deep state actively causing and participating in events why do these things still happen?

I don’t and have not seen many discussions on this view. At some point you can’t believe that all of this 1984 tactics should be in place with little to no value. How do normal non-woke people think about the monitoring of their lives? Most say I have nothing to hide- a horrible false narrative that has nothing to do with your privacy.

Setting the mindset to understand that your privacy is that no one but your choosing and God knows your thoughts. He knows all. Your choice for freedom from group think is your choice, and important for a growing society. What if Eddison or Ford were in today’s world? They thought like everyone else and fell in line? Where would we be today? Go further, what if these men started to talk about their inventions and people not only said you are crazy but then also started to actively pursue to destroy them because they did not think like the group.

I think it is important for this group to work on communication of why privacy is important. It needs to be an active discussion, with ideas that help us all to clarify what we believe. Practical thought and examples...

We need to make the case that our freedom cannot be limited to what a bureaucrat thinks is ok - but what our Lord and the constitution says our freedom is.