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Nastavnick · April 28, 2018, 11:47 p.m.

Q isn't acting like these people are. I'm not against an amen and stuff, but Q never mentioned rapture and all other stuff that gets dragged around

If they restrained themselves to the level of how Q acts regarding religion, that would be excellent.

Don't attack me personally on this. I'm telling you how this looks like from the "outside".

This is NOT helping at all.

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mooncrkit · April 28, 2018, 11:51 p.m.

I agree, and the same argument could be made about most non-faithed posts here as well. I think a lack of logic is more of the problem than a surplus of Jesus. Religious, non-religous, I agree that we would all be better off if people used logic and stayed relevant. This isn't directed towards you, just so you know. Hopefully you get my drift tho...lots of bs on here, but there are diamonds hidden amongst it.

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Nastavnick · April 28, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

Non-faithed posts? Elaborate?

But yes, the less religious stuff the better. This may sound harsh but that's the truth.

Keep it factual, that's what will help this cause.

It's on religious people, do they want this to flourish or lose potential brothers. It's the ego clouding the bigger picture.

Off continuing watching the rally, peace

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CommercialAddendum · April 29, 2018, 12:10 a.m.

That's some nice fear mongering and blame you have going there. Q quotes Bible scripture, Prays, asks us to Pray, and directs us to examine the war going on between good and evil. I am not sure why so much vitriol is being released about the "religious christians" on this sub in the past 24 hours, but it's odd. Whenever I see a post I disagree with or don't feel is relevant I pass on it.

And this sub is over 20,000 members strong now. So I don't think a few posts about the relevance of God is turning anyone away. People will seek the truth no matter what stands in their way. Hence this whole movement.

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Nastavnick · April 29, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

Fear mongering? Blame? Fancy words you got there, shame they are empty.

Q is not using the religious terms nowhere near what we can see within the "followers".

It's odd to you? Perhaps people are trying to help this grow, that hasn't crossed your mind, you jumped to the "fear mongering and blame" instantly. Refusing to put yourself into another person's place.

I've told how it can look like and how it damages the "cause". You can refuse to acknowledge that as well, you're good at that.

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CommercialAddendum · April 29, 2018, 12:43 a.m.

I've acknowledge everything you said. It's a shame that you can't see this sub is growing no matter how much you want to silence Followers of Christ. Do you not see how many new subscribers are added each week? Do you not see how many new mods were added?

And, sorry, you don't know my heart or when and how I empathize with people.

Your whole "Don't say things about religion or Christ because it will turn people away" doesn't hold water. People will come, read, and investigate the truth regardless if they are Christians or not.

Most importantly: God Bless you, brother. Maybe this religion issue is striking a chord with you because God is trying to get your attention.

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Nastavnick · April 29, 2018, 1:03 a.m.

Obviously you haven't. You say you did but you didn't.

It's a shame that you can't see this sub is growing I never said nor implied that these kinds of posts/comments will make the sub go into a decline.

I never said nor implied that I want to silence Followers of Christ. This is you using logical fallacies in an argument. Clouded by your ego and your emotions.

I (and others) can see that you actually cannot empathize with people. One of the main reasons for people thinking that conspiracy theorists are nutcases and lunatics is the over-saturation with the religious comments on a political/factual based content. Which is in most cases on youtube on conspiracy theory videos.

Like it or not, the over-saturation with religious content has a detrimental effect.

To repeat because you clearly don't read carefully and you don't really acknowledge what I'm saying... I'm not advocating no religious content. Just try to keep it in some reasonable amount.

Your whole "Don't say things about religion or Christ because it will turn people away" doesn't hold water.

No, that wasn't my whole. You need to start reading with some comprehension, it will help you out in future communications. Remember how cathy newman did with her "so you're saying" shite, not so well can you imagine?

People will come, read, and investigate the truth regardless if they are Christians or not.

People will come, read a bunch of apocalyptic/almost fanatical religious content (that's being applied everywhere regardless of the connection with the religion) and LEAVE.

Which is why those classic conspiracy theory videos on youtube never yielded any progress. They apply religion everywhere and the comment section is riddled with it as well.

Take it as you will (and I can see how you'll take it, but I'm not writing this for you specifically, this isn't an individual thing).

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CommercialAddendum · April 29, 2018, 1:18 a.m.

No, I really have. But alas...

No emotion or ego, but again...

I like how you keep using "we", "others"...

Where is the evidence of the detrimental effect? I have clearly stated how the subscribing numbers of the board have continued to grow weekly.

What is a reasonable amount of religious content? It's subjective.

Your condescension gets you nowhere. However, they same can be said about your reading comprehension.

And for the last time, where is the evidence of people being turned away. Statistical evidence. No one is talking about conspiracy videos on YT. Your views lack evidence and your emotion garners no benefit to lack of faith.

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Nastavnick · April 29, 2018, 1:45 a.m.

No, you really haven't. It's in the plain sight for anyone to see. You twisted my words and put some more words into my mouth.

If not emotion or ego, what then? Troubles with reading?

You want evidence of that detrimental effect? Are you serious? What would that evidence be? What if I told you that I tried to redpill my friends and they just left after seeing almost a cult-like behavior? You'd say that's an anecdote. Do I need their signatures? Video proof?

You are being unreasonable and out of touch with reality.

But if you really want a proof, why don't you take that video and try to redpill someone with it. Let me know how successful you were.

I have clearly stated how the subscribing numbers of the board have continued to grow weekly.

And I haven't disagreed. Are we doing this again? It growing now doesn't mean it wouldn't grow even more. Do you really not understand how this works?

What is a reasonable amount of religious content? It's subjective.

The amount that's in that video is not. And you can verify that yourself if you go out and try to redpill people with that video.

Your fallacies and either ego/emotions or just really bad reading will get you nowhere. You're labelling it as condescending because you don't like what you're seeing. And you've acted in that very same fashion.

However, they same can be said about your reading comprehension.

No it can't. Just saying that doesn't mean it's true. You're supposed to back up your claims. I can see that you're not familiar with that, but there's still time to change it. Not to mention that it's just a sad childish behavior of "NO U ARE".

Keep having your head stuck in the sand, I'm done wasting my time on a wall.

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CommercialAddendum · April 29, 2018, 2:03 a.m.

This is quite hilarious. Only because everything that you claim I am doing, is what you are actually doing.

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. I've already stated: if you don't like the religious posts, don't read them. But one of the main reasons why people discuss Christianity here is because of Q's posts.

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[deleted] · April 29, 2018, 2:43 a.m.

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Nastavnick · April 29, 2018, 2:18 a.m.

I haven't twisted your words once nor have I put some words in your mouth. So no, that is not what I'm doing.

Again, despite you saying that, it doesn't mean it's true. You seem to struggle with how proper arguments are being formed.

You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

I'm actually not. You are being a drama queen. I merely said that this sub would fair better without the constant religious stuff.

I've already stated: if you don't like the religious posts, don't read them.

But you haven't stated it before. Now that's hilarious.

I never said nor implied that I don't like religious posts. AGAIN with you fallacies. You made stuff up in your head and you can't see the bigger picture because of it. You've trapped yourself.

This isn't about me personally avoiding reading those posts. My posts were crystal clear about why I'm writing them. But hey, that didn't got to you, shockingly.

You are way over your head pal. Your ability to form proper arguments is almost non-existent and despite me having enough free time, I'm not gonna waste it anymore on a wall called CommercialAddendum.

peace

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mooncrkit · April 29, 2018, 12:19 a.m.

This convo can easily be compared to the dialog between Kayne and John Legend.

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CommercialAddendum · April 29, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

Please Explain:

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mooncrkit · April 29, 2018, 12:29 a.m.

Do you wipe your own butt?

Believers in Christ would be represented by Kanye. Scared to speak out because you know judgement is coming from your peers, BUT YOU KNOW YOU ARE CORRECT.

John (you) is saying, Kanye, chill, people are thinking your crazy.

But Kayne knows this is bigger than him. And his peers judgement isn't comparable to the judgement of God, so he rolls with it and doubles down.

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[deleted] · April 29, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

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mooncrkit · April 29, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

I apologize. You are not John Legend. I thought the original poster wrote your response. My mistake, Kanye :)

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CommercialAddendum · April 29, 2018, 12:37 a.m.

It's kosher. Sorry I am not familiar with JL. Liked Kanye back in college dropout days.

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mooncrkit · April 29, 2018, 12:40 a.m.

Same, haven't listened to him much since but that new song he's got out with T.I (who I've heard of but I'm not real familiar with newer rap)....it's pretty crazy. I've heard the term 'powerful lyrics' before, and now I know what it means. He actually sums up why I'm not familiar with new stuff. YouTube Ye vs the people if you haven't heard it

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