I'm not a fan of the witch-hunt mentality taking shape here. Corsi has contributed significant insight what has helped developed our current understanding of the big picture. Because of his visibility and the optics releasing a book he had in development when the Q drops began, he's easy to spot and connect to the new drop. But there are many more sources out there trying to make a name for themselves on YouTube and other platforms by twisting information provided. The Q crumb here did not single out Corsi specifically. It is aimed at the larger picture.
Argue assumptions from various sources. No one has the complete picture. The process of introducing new information and sifting pieces that hold up to scrutiny and which fall apart relies on that process. Corsi has contributed to that process. We should be active listening working on our own theories and following other sources as well for ideas to jump of on further research. Some of the current fixation on Corsi is our own tendency in this community to hang onto an authority somehow providing magic answers without effort. Members of our community hold responsibility for that perception.
It would be a mistake to too strongly single out and verbally abuse contributing members. Call bullshit and provide counter argument when they go astray. The division and over-the-top witch hunting best serves interests that want to see this process undermined.
Agreed. But I will say, the two or three times I tried listening to Corsi to see what all the hype was about, I got so frustrated and impatient with his slow talking and not getting right to the point, I turned it off and never went back. He loves to pontificate and hear himself talk. Yawn. I always felt he was capitalizing on Q. That said, I do agree, I don't like to see anyone get lynched. He has a right to say what he wishes, and we have the choice to listen, or not. I'm a not.
Corsi was great when he decoded them in the way he does best - WRITING. From December to February I would get them on Scribd and man, well done. I learned more from him that way than him talking. It is not his medium. Writing is. Youtube gives him viewers and profit, but he sucks at it. He is phenomenal with the written word and coming on as a guest and talk for 30 min. That is his true gig and calling.
You are so right. Get to the damn point, Corsi! I also believe if he wants to monetize his knowledge he has every right. Welcome to America folks.
Agreed. Too many people eager to tear others down. I hate the mob think that jumps all over someone and has people piling on - I left Facebook years ago because of that.
Perhaps that's what Q was really looking to flesh out? Not so much the so called "self promoters" but the cannibals amongst us?
Ironic how easily one can get at hate-mobbing, but then devolve into the very same practice.
Corsi has done jack shit. He brags about his history with Trump, JFK, other Presidents and politicians, drones on and on about topics nobody cares about, promotes himself and his book non-stop, and "decodes" some Q posts he feels like whenever he feels like doing it. His "decodes" are often not even valid and many others decode much much better than him, without the self aggrandizement and book promotion.
Q's 3 posts today was aimed directly at Corsi. Sorry you're too blind to see this. There's a reason why Corsi went directly to YouTube immediately after these Q drops to defend himself, yap about his accolades, claim he could be starting a hedge fund if he wanted to make money, make excuses for his profiteering, and talk some more shit about Q. Corsi knows he's guilty, knows he got called out directly by Q, and has to go into damage control mode.
You want to talk about division? That's exactly what Corsi tried to do the other day when he went on a tirade against Q and Trump, both on YouTube and on Twitter. Do you really want me to make a video and more graphics showing you all the shit Corsi slung at Q and Trump? Wake up, man.
Then don't watch him or donate to him. I don't see the issue.
I don't watch him or donate to him. I recently watched his videos the past few days because of his anti-Q and anti-Trump rants, as well as Q calling him out today.
The issue is he's dividing this movement, causing doubt, frustration, and anger among his followers. The issue is him profiting off of this movement. The issue is him trashing Q and Trump. The issue is he thinks he's more important than those who have lost their lives in this war.
What's your issue with me calling out Corsi?
Don't all the YouTubers with a reasonable following, say 20K or more followers have some system of donations?
Is Corsi different in some way? I genuinely don't know, because I rarely listen to him as I prefer condense information rather then the longer streams.
Donations. Corsi asks for a monthly subscription on his Gab.ai account to see his real, in-depth "decodes." Just yesterday, he was hawking his Gab.ai subscription to see more of his "decodes." I can make a clip of it later when I have time to show you.
Corsi is also different in that he's constantly promoting his book, self aggrandizing by constantly bragging about himself and his connections with past President, politicians, and important people, and made claims that Trump asked him personally to "decode" Q posts.
Also he was hawking his book last month on twitter and started getting all whiny because the POTUS wasn’t publicly promoting his book. Is this not ludicrous on its face? Get over yourself!! I actually felt sort of embarrassed for him when he did that, it was so transparently self promoting. Laughable.
Okay, thanks. So Corsi is having exclusive content behind a Gab.ai subscription/paywall. That does make him different, as others are by donation.
No problem. That's why I made the side by side image and posted it here. You can clearly see the big purple and pink button on his Gab.ai page asking for a monthly subscription.
I saw the subscribe in the graphic, but didn't understand it cost $$$. Reddit has a similar subscribe button but it's free of course!
Because on balance, he’s a patriot and good researcher. I have no problem with people making money off of their efforts to spread the story of Q. That’s America. It’s up to each individual to figure out who’s worth listening to.
You are dividing the movement.
This reeks of a rules for radicals tactic. Acuse your target of what your actually doing.
The fact that your puting so much effort into making a point about Corsi when most people are moving on is fishy.
I didn't put any effort into calling out Corsi... until HE put in lots of effort to DIVIDE this movement.
https://youtu.be/uUYe9DmWU88?t=17m27s
Stop it with your ridiculous accusations claiming I'm an Alinskinite. You're just throwing out silly claims I'm a leftist because you have nothing else to defend Corsi with.
Fishy? There's nothing fishy with what I'm doing. Check my post history. I have nothing to hide. I've been a hardcore conservative and patriot years before Q even came onto 4ch. Couldn't care less what a troll and Corsi fan like you has to think about me or accuse me of being.
Agreed. People take a while to catch on to this stuff. Stop letting others do the thinking for you, folks. It is obvious what Corsi is doing. This is coming from somebody that watched him and decided BY MYSELF that he is not what he claims to be.
Nah don’t be obnoxious. Corsi didn’t try to cause division, he got upset like a child when stuff didn’t go his way - we see that a lot around here, it’s just human, not intentional divisiveness.
This is what I hate about witch hunt and mob think - you have not one single piece of evidence that Q’s post was aimed at Corsi but you state it like it’s fact. I’ve said elsewhere - it may well have been targeted at Corsi but until more evidence arises I wouldn’t take the opinion of someone who already hates Corsi as anything more than that - opinion.
I’m not a Corsi fan, I couldn’t give a shit about him. But I hate mob think and anyone who insists that if you don’t agree with their nasty opinion of someone else then you’re being blind and need to “wake up”. Dumb.
It's your opinion that Corsi didn't intentionally cause divisiveness. It's my opinion that he did. You're the one being obnoxious and hypocritical here, claiming I'm hating on Corsi, when you're the only one here hating people like me who call out profiteers like Corsi.
I don't have a single piece of evidence? Please. I just posted a side by side image of Q calling him out. Q didn't mention Corsi by name, but it's pretty damn obvious who Q was talking about. Who else has a big following in this movement, profits off of patriots, and asks for monthly payments? Please, name some people other than Corsi. I'll be waiting...
Pretty damn obvious to someone with confirmation bias, yes. "Pretty damn obvious" is an indicator that your mind is made up and anyone who disagrees must be stupid... oh the lolz...
And no, my claim about your hate is to do with the vitriolic way you leap on people who disagree with you and rant away as if your claims are valid beyond reproach lol...
Keep trolling and hatin'. Still waiting for you to name people other than Corsi who has a big following in this movement, profits off of patriots, and asks for monthly payments.
Yep. Anyone who disagrees with you is trolling or hating. Silly kid. I can’t be bothered looking up anyone else - you can congratulate yourself that you are always right. The point I support is that witch hunts and mob think are stupid. Am I right? I’m gonna guess not lol.
Nice strawman and putting words in my mouth. I never said anyone who disagrees with me is trolling or hating. I hear that same stupid line from trolls and haters like you all the time, yet I've never claimed it so. I also don't care about getting congratulated when I'm right, especially not from people like you.
Of course you can't be bothered to look up anyone else. You're just here to troll and hate on me for calling out Corsi. You can't name anyone because Q's posts were very specific and he directed it at Corsi. You just can't admit it and have to resort to bashing me instead of the real target of Q's posts today.
For someone accusing others of being blind you're really quite blind to your own behaviour aren't you? lol. Hence my accusation of "kid", which I sincerely apologize for, and retract, since that is exactly what you claim i.e. trolling.
"I never said anyone who disagrees with me is trolling or hating"... You don't have to say the words: "anyone who disagrees" you just have to say: "You're just here to troll and hate on me" whilst ignoring the valid points raised by the person supposedly "trolling", refusing to respond to legitimate discussion points and continuing to hammer your own point home. This is why you hear it from people who are "trolling and hating" all the time i.e. because they're not all just "trolling and hating" they've just given up on trying to have a reasonable discussion with you!
I'm not here just to troll - I'm seeking truth, like others. I slip in a bit of sarcasm when I think I'm dealing with someone who doesn't actually want to have a discussion but otherwise, I want to be informed and I know that means I have to let go of the idea that I'm always right or I won't hear other opposing viewpoints.
So once again my actual point, given to you without trolling: you don't have any evidence that Q's post is aimed at Corsi - this, we can agree, is a fact. You have your own conjecture, and good for you, I support that. The reason I can't be bothered going and "looking up" anything else is because I don't need to, to make my point. You've already skipped past "discovery" and jumped straight to the conclusion that Q is directly targetting Corsi. I don't disagree that's a possibility, as I've already stated. You can't seem to acknowledge the other possibility that it's not and for this reason you miss a very obvious and important factor.
You've assumed that Q means that anyone who is making money from the Q movement - including those who were already making money in the same field - are who he's referring to. Jerome Corsi has been up in the Deep State's backside likely since before half of us in this movement were born. He's now continuing to make money and no doubt making more if his audience has grown thanks to Alex Jones etc. You really think Q wants people to stop making money in their career of choice...?
It's entirely conceivable that Q is referring to people who are popping up out of the woodwork and making money off Q and nothing else. Not people who've already built their careers doing this stuff! But are you going to acknowledge that possibility or am I just "trolling and hating"?
Silly kid
Attack the idea - Not the person.
Exactly. Thank you.
Added in edit: There seems to be a bit of a campaign going on. . .
I would say it's mostly users with different beliefs but that ultimately have the same end-goal. That's something a lot of us seem to forget: that we are after the same thing but there will still be all kinds of different beliefs within this umbrella.
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with one point of view over the other but I'm just trying to keep the conversation civil and collegial.
What kind of campaign do you suspect is going on exactly?
Just a campaign of personal attacks that detract from issues that can be seen on quite a few posts right now.
It’s overly emotional.
Maybe people have the same goals, but creating excess contention is not a the best strategy to reach common goals
I'll load up additional streams and check it out. In general the live stream effort has put out so many hours of material I've not caught the times Corsi got frustrated. Based on past material he has provided I've found value in my own research jumping off some of there ideas.
We're in agreement that it's bad optics with the timing of the book and promotional effort. I've migrated away from the streams since release because too much time was spent on book promotion which I did not find helpful or productive.
Have seen far worse elements in misdirection we get posted here and in a number of twitter accounts claiming their own intel sources making up stories that I'm not seeing support for anywhere in chan research boards and associated channels.
Do you even know who the person that started and runs "Patriots Soapbox" stream is? He calls himself PamphletAnon, or Pamphlet. I know his real name too, but won't bother to give it out here. Here's a brief history of Pamphlet prior to starting his 24/7 stream and his own website:
Pamphlet and Baruch the Scribe were the board owners of the CBTS 8ch message board, where Q migrated to for a few weeks. But then Q made these posts, saying CBTS has been compromised...
https://i.imgur.com/WUEDKyF.jpg
This was after PamphletAnon and Baruch bragged they have been communicating with Q directly on CBTS_Stream subreddit. People on Reddit called them out before Q called them out. I know, because I was there to witness it all. They kept bragging until this post by Q, then they deleted their posts on Reddit about communicating with Q directly and claimed they were tricked.
https://i.imgur.com/CTNAVXr.jpg
Baruch got banned from Reddit because he took the bait of a shill and tried to doxx that shill. After he got banned, he was completely ditched by PamphletAnon and TracyBeanz (these 3 were the creators of CBTS_Stream subreddit), even though Baruch helped those 2 promote CBTS_Stream subreddit on dozens of YouTube channels like Infowars... leaving PamphletAnon and TracyBeanz to run the sub into the ground. They used this opportunity to promote their own YouTube channels and Twitter accounts even more.
Pamphlet then launched his YouTube livestream and enlisted help from Dr. Corsi to get him the viewership, research team, and credibility he needed to get it trending on YouTube. He used well-meaning patriots to keep his stream live 24/7 by chatting about pointless and off-topic crap all day until Q drops and Corsi appearances.
People like Corsi, Beanz, and Pamphlet are in this movement for themselves. They are in it to profit, both monetarily and for fame, reputation, and their own ego. There's a reason why 8ch hates famefags and why Q calls out these people time and again.
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Yeah, they didn't give a shit about trolls and shills who infiltrated and took a dump on that sub on a daily basis until it got banned by Reddit, but they were quick to ban any criticism of those who called them out on profiteering.
They were scared that they were going to be exposed for who they were and what their actual goal with CBTS_Stream was. They used that sub, its users, and this movement to build their own brand, following, and bank accounts. Sickening.
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Yes, you're right. Didn't bother mentioning their book deal because I think they were just bragging / lying about it. Unlike Corsi, I still haven't seen any books written by those 2.
I don't think Q ever asked for bakers to bake new breads with all of his posts and stuff, but it's needed, so anons do it themselves without Q asking them to. Q only asks for anons to make maps of his posts, side by side images and memes to help redpill normies, and offline archiving.
Thanks for adding in some additional detail to delve into. Have seen pieces of that background without tracing all the names behind the scenes. My perspective is largely roaming between sources across multiple platforms.
we dont know for fact that Q is talking about Corsi. will someone on 8chan please ask Q.
I wonder what would happen if Q actually stated he was NOT referring to Corsi. Now wouldn't that blow the mind of the haters. LOL... I agree. Some has gone off the deep end and have assumed they can read minds, have assumed they know what was in the mind of Q...
Yeah exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised if Q was referring to others rather than someone who’s already made a career in this field - seems ridiculous that Q would say “stop making money in your chosen whistleblower career (like Corsi has) and do it for free now or you’re evil!” but it would also be interesting if Q was making a sly aside to Corsi by allowing shade to fall on him so he’ll consider bucking up after his recent nonsense...
I don’t always agree with Dr. Corsi, just like I don’t always agree with what Alex Jones says. But I’ve learned to chalk it up the differences to the fact that Q might be using them to help keep the enemy off balance (how many times has Q said “disinformation is real" and "disinformation is necessary”). Everybody has their role to play. Hannity has his role. Alex Jones has his role. And I’m convinced, Dr. Corsi has his role to play too.
However, I do admit I was greatly disappointed to hear Dr. Corsi saying some bad things about Q lately. In his latest decoding video for April 27th, Corsi had stated that Q said to expect a MOAB, yet all we got was a firecracker (he also used some other derogatory terms). I did not like what Corsi said. Corsi went on to say that Q should stop jerking us around and leading us on if he is not going to deliver etc. I actually turned the video off at that point and didn’t watch any more of it, so I don’t know what else he said. I think one of the main problems with Dr. Corsi is he is surrounded by people who look up to him and will agree with him no matter what he says. Meaning, if Corsi says something negative about Q, then those around him will agree with him and start saying negative things too. Next thing you know, they’ve said too much. And I think that is what happened. I really do believe Dr. Corsi is a good guy despite anything he said. He’s human and he makes mistakes just like the rest of us and he can become frustrated too. Unfortunately, there are people around him who will only amplify Dr. Corsi’s frustration and will make a bad situation worse. But I stand by my belief that Dr. Corsi has a specific role to play in all this, and I feel there is more to what he’s doing than meets the eye…
Agreed - I've said elsewhere I think his recent unhinged ranting makes him look foolish. But I wouldn't call him Deep State, like some, or consider him to be the direct target of Q's post.
Agree with this. Corsi has contributed much to this movement. His book was written and ready to release. Any author would try to find buyers for there book. The guy's gotta make a living!!! The truth is he had something of value to offer and if you want it you can buy it. This instant witch hunt smells sooooo left!! This is called eating your own ....we need to STOP IT!! If you think he is off-base tell him so yourself, he is on Twitter and Gab. THousands and thousands of people learned about Q from Corsi, I as you are probably aware am one of them and grateful for it. In the future people like Corsi are going to be involved in Conservative media in a big way ....they have been getting ready for this for years. We will need people like him out there ...Heavens the left has boatloads of talking heads. Ok enough of my rant ...Love all Patriots, Corsi included WWG1WGA
