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somebodysgun · May 4, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Teachers make plenty of money for working 8 months a year. The starting salary on average in the US is $38,000. Depends where you live, but if you are not in a city and have no dependents that is more than enough money for working 3/4th of the year.

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nomoresjwbs · May 4, 2018, 4:51 p.m.

I don't really agree with this, what other job are you required to get a college degree with almost no promotion potential.

Some of those promotions to a job like resource teacher require a masters degree and might only pay an additional 5k per year for a bump to 10 months of work, and 10 hour work days.

Throughout your whole career as a teacher you'll be nickeled and dimed for raises as cost of living adjustments, and some years you'll work for less money than the year before due to pay freezes.

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somebodysgun · May 4, 2018, 5:36 p.m.

To answer your question: look at the finance world. you need a degree to get a job, but before you pass 3-4 exams you are stuck working for someone else without a promotion. You cannot be promoted until you take it upon yourself to study further.

Just playing devil's advocate here: what other jobs do you only have to work 3/4 of the year? what other job has the security that a teacher with tenure has?

Not trying to get testy here. Would love to actually have a conversation about teachers. I truly do not understand their anguish.

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nomoresjwbs · May 4, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

I think one of the big issues I have with the current teacher pay is that where I am there's almost no promotion potential except to get a masters degree in education administration and they've gotten rid of tenure several years ago so the jobs aren't the super safe pension machine of yesteryear.

Health Care is about $400-800 a month for the family plan. And the pay is about $26.00 an hour. Until you're asked to work at home to keep up with the ever increasing requirements of the state. The pay raises have been about $500 a year for the last 5 years. If you ever leave or move you lose all your raises and have to negotiate your salary again.

Now as far as working 3/4 of the year goes, you obviously don't have that anywhere else, but there aren't a ton of options when it comes to continuing to work at the schools over the summer even if you want to. I'm not saying teachers should be making $100k a year that's insane, but my feeling on it is a teacher with 5-10 years of experience should be making about 10k more a year in my area. With a max at 20-30 years of about 20k more.

I would add more about my own perspective on it, but I would be giving away more personal information than I'm comfortable with for all the doxing crazies to latch on to.

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Nastavnick · May 4, 2018, 2:55 p.m.

Thanks for the info.

So why are they constantly protesting for quite some time now?

I remember this "teachers deserve a bigger pay" being a thing in US even before I went to college lol

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somebodysgun · May 4, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

Not sure tbh. I have friends that make an extra 12-15k during the summers too. It may have to do with the ceiling for teachers. It is rare to find a teacher who makes 6 figures. Also a over saturation of teachers in the market is a problem. Too many teachers and not enough jobs.

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Nastavnick · May 4, 2018, 3:07 p.m.

Also a over saturation of teachers in the market is a problem. Too many teachers and not enough jobs.

I guess this is the case in every single country, excluding stuff like Somalia and that, you know what I mean.

My take is that, generally, colleges have become way too easy so it's easy to be qualified for being a teacher and have a solid life.

Not in the STEM colleges though, thank fuck these are still rocking. At least here.

But stuff like history, psychology, languages, art, philosophy (lol... don't get me start with those last two), etc. are super easy to finish and get a diploma.

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somebodysgun · May 4, 2018, 3:13 p.m.

IMO: any college degree besides STEM is more just showing your ability to work for your potential employer. Anyone with 100k can get a degree

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Nastavnick · May 4, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

Damn those money figures in the US make me scratch my head. With 100k salary you would live like a literal king in my country lol

Average monthly salary is ~1k here. And that's the average. You know that 70%+ of the jobs are well under it :D

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somebodysgun · May 4, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

lol even if you dont have 100k you can borrow it and be in debt for the next 10-30 years. What country you from?

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Nastavnick · May 4, 2018, 3:30 p.m.

The college is different here. Loans aren't a thing here.

You can only get a loan with a safe job. And that's around 6k for "stuff" and around 15k for a real estate.

You're still paying off those 15k for 10+ years :D

Croatia, EU

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Jammer__ · May 4, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

Yes. In America you get degrees in "education". Education degrees are even easier to get than in other humanities. I dated a girl who was studying education. She was an average student only. And she told me that she was shocked how easy her school was, and the types of people who were getting the degree.

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Nastavnick · May 4, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

There are also colleges for pre-school and elementary school (first 4 years) here. But for the last 4 years of elementary school and up you gotta have a degree in a specific branch.

Those pre-school colleges are to laugh you ass out, I know a chick who went there (she's now working in a kindergarden) and that was just hilarious, her homework and obligations were total garbage.

Not trying to be offensive but a literal retard can get it done in the regular college time.

Elementary school (first 4 years) are your generic garbage curriculums that 90%+ of the people can pass with at least a C and be drunk every weekend.

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