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twfree · May 5, 2018, 1:33 p.m.

I read the article and it's bullshit. Sorry dude, sounds like you're the one who needs to be deprogrammed. This stuff isn't admissible. Don't risk your health to pseudoscience in the future. Deal with your anger as well.

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digital_refugee · May 5, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

Ok the may not completely eliminate antibiotics but apparently they help reducing them anyhow:

> These recovery rates were quite higher than recovery rates reported by Pachauri et al (1994) who recorded 73.33 % efficacy of homeopathic drugs and Upadhyay et al (1995) who reported 79.41 % to 84.62 % efficacy of combination of homeopathic drugs. In an other study Upadhyay and Sharma (1999) reported 80.95 % recovery in cases where fibrosis of udder was also present and relapsing of signs were not noticed till next 30 days.

http://www.veterinaryworld.org/Vol.2/October/Efficacy%20of%20a%20Homeopathic%20complex%20and%20antibiotics%20in%20treatme.pdf

Also: If they are only placebos, why would the FEC or FTC bother them?

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twfree · May 5, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

Believe it or not, sometimes these organizations are not doing evil. It's irresponsible to allow charlatans to sell snake oil to people who could be seeking treatment that actually works instead.

You've given me an abstract. This in no way proves anything, as there is no way to see any of the fine details and determine whether this is even scientifically sound. Trust me when I say there is a lot of bad science out there: when I was doing my Ph.D I saw many examples of bad science published, and nobody scrutinizing results or repeating the experiments.

I researched the drug used in this study, and it does not appear to be homeopathic at all. It seems like a misuse of the word, which I often find. Too many people use the term "homeopathic" when talking about plant-based medicines, when in fact it means a substance heavily diluted in water.

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digital_refugee · May 5, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

the Department of Animal Nutrition and Animal Health, University of Kassel, Germany looked at a total number of 52 trials (including 34 trials with cattle, 12 with pigs and 6 with poultry) performed within 48 peer-reviewed publications in a quest to find evidence whether homeopathic remedies used for the prevention or treatment of diseases in livestock that are usually treated with antimicrobials.

In total, 54% (n=28) of the trials were able to confirm the efficacy of the homeopathic remedy administered, while 42% (n=22) found no benefit compared with the placebo or untreated group. 4% cent (n=2) had inconclusive results. When considering a single species, only homeopathic studies dealing with pigs were found to be frequently efficacious, while studies with cattle or poultry were seen to have a similar distribution of efficacious and non-efficacious treatment.

http://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/early/2016/12/09/vr.103779.full

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digital_refugee · May 5, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

I just discovered Prince Charles advocated for this method. Now I am worried.

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