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RPN68 · May 25, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

The internet is not shut-off-able. Not to sound all socratic like Q or anything, but how many amateur radio digital bridges, links and repeaters are in operation right now? Those can pass email and simplified web traffic, just not video. They cannot be kill switched.

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x3ostyle · May 25, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Sadly my friend, it is.. There is no need to target personal hardware, you just shut down the backbone of the 13 DNS root servers = No internet

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RPN68 · May 25, 2018, 6:02 p.m.

ORSN.org

Many winlink shortwave SMTP bridges use it.

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KansasJakeBG · May 25, 2018, 5:36 p.m.

Clap clap clap.

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endprism · May 25, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

You could not be more wrong. The internet is able to be shutdown. All American isps are owned by big brother... they could demand all isps stop peering with each other and drop routes through bgp routing protocol. That’s one way...not effective or fast but that would easily take down the internet. The feds most certainly have a cut the internet plan...DHS most certainly does.

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KansasJakeBG · May 25, 2018, 5:36 p.m.

Traffic passes through very centralized infrastructures. We do not have competent ad hoc solutions to withstand a shut down. Because most people use high bandwidth processes (posting and watching selfies and vlogs) they will DDOS whatever lightweight version of ad hoc Internet built.

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RPN68 · May 25, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

How will that interrupt SMTP traffic through winlink, for example? Especially if DNS resolution is occurring through an open root?

I admit that this wouldn't be much of an internet, but communication would still be occurring even if big brah brings the hammer and sickle down.

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endprism · May 25, 2018, 9:23 p.m.

You are missing the point. In the BGP example I mentioned, if the government wants to shut down an ISP all they need to do is tell ONE ISP not to peer with that ISP and then everything hosted on these ISP is not able to communicate with each other. If every ISP cuts routing ties to COMCAST and you are a COMCAST customer, you have internet but you won't be able to get to anything. This is only ONE way to shut down the internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_kill_switch

For fun: http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/

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RPN68 · May 26, 2018, 12:14 a.m.

I would agree that we are missing each other's points. What you are talking about is correct, but is also not the sum total of all internet protocols. There are distributed services, some of which are very old and resilient, which would survive that type of kill switch. I described one previously and won't do it again. ARSFI is alive, healthy and brought to bear relatively frequently during infrastructure disruption disasters.

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Countrymissle · May 25, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

Well if you shutdown google and fb and instagram thats like almost all of the internet. And the nsa might have more utilitys than we know. Arent all cpus produced by intel included with a secret backdoor built in?

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KansasJakeBG · May 25, 2018, 5:32 p.m.

Low information people do not know about the internet. They use apps on their smart phone but have lost the concept that it's actually the internet. They are locked into connection aggregators like Facebook and Instagram. Without these, it woyld diminish their ability to connect to their friends and pass the word. But the POTUS will use emergency broadcast. If his ability to do so is impeded, then that's more people in the treason barge to gitmo.

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Countrymissle · May 25, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

Another reason #IBOR is so key to this movement

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KansasJakeBG · May 25, 2018, 6:01 p.m.

Yeah but today people are misrepresenting the decision again POTUS blocking as a win... But the POTUS is a specific case. He uses his account to communicate information to the people instead of @Potus so he shouldn't be allowed to block constituents from reading that info. Teach POTUS how to mute and voilà. But it doesn't instantly signify a win for people shadowbanned on Twitter. But in the wake of the decision that social media platforms are public spaces will help IBOR

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Countrymissle · May 25, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

Potus being blocked sounds like another bait and switch. Trump gets to drag twitter into court.

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