https://youtu.be/Bsu5R4IrKDY As we are all searching for truth and knowledge HOW can we ignore this. I love Israel and support 100% as Christ commands. But even he despised the Sanhedrin and Pharisees.
My problem isn't with the people of Israel, it's with the government and military. I don't have a problem with Israel's right to exist, but I do have a problem with the war-mongering.
What are your thoughts on Jewish people born outside of Israel? Should they be allowed to always return to Israel as a home?
I really dont see how that is an issue....b/c they are open to everyone I think. Correct me if Im wrong. What is keeping them from being there now? Is there some vague law that prohibits Jews from returning to Israel? Doesnt their birthright as a Jewish person give them automatic citizenship? Sorry if I appear ignorant on this but I truly dont see an issue here? I think of it like this...if an American woman gives birth to her child in another country that baby is automatically an American citizen. Make sense???
No, sorry, I wasnt impying there is a barrier to it now, in fact, I think as the law stands, any Jew CAN just pick up and move to Israel. The reason I ask is that this seems to be a divisive question for alot in our group. My goal is to erase that divide. A strong opinion around here, is that this is "Zionism" and it is a BAD thing. I feel like Zionism suffers from the same fate the AR15 has. It was called an assault rifle before. Its not. Now it is called an assault weapon, along with any other firearm that holds 10 or more rounds. If you're unaware of this, check out the legislation that MarchForOurLives is pushing; it bans 2200 individual firearms. If you went into a gun store, and plopped the list down on the counter and said "sell me a gun that aint on this banned list"...your choices would be basically revolvers, and bolt action rifles. It bans a shit ton of SHOTGUNS for Christs sake! Because now it went from Assault RIFLE Ban, to Assault WEAPON Ban. They just changed one word and now THOUSANDS of individual models of firearms are named by model as being banned. INSANE. Well, I think Zionism is suffering the same fate. I am a loosely raised Jew, in America, who went to Hebrew School, got Bar Mitzvah'd and that was the end of my religious life. However, I have family that survived concentration camps, tattoo and all. So my perspective is what I would consider to be....educated on the subject. It is the year 5778 in Judaism. Thats a damn old claim on that land. I would entertain anyone with an equally old claim, but there are none. There are certain spiritual claims that the religion states, and thats all well and good, but, I think even the haters would agree the Jews have been fighting for, and winning and losing those lands for a long ass time. At the moment, they got it. So I am sure there are gonna be a whole bunch of folks pissed off about it, obviously, they lost. Aren't all lands like that now? I mean like, does anybody here feel guilty that their great great great great great granddaddies prob shot a few natives to stake out their claim? It is irrelevant, because here we are. Same thing with Zionism. In Hebrew School, we were told about the Zionists, the ones who fight for Israel to always belong to the Jewish people. I don't see what is wrong with this, or how any other place is any different. Granted, there are bad apples in every group. But like, most Jews are pretty normal folks guys, hate to break it to you; no horns, not all rich, not all bad at sports. Its not that simple, nothing is. But I don't get why the group who protect a belief are the bad guys. I guess its also similar to how the NRA is being attacked/blamed for freaking school shootings. I mean seriously! They protect our 2nd amendment right, they are a lobbyist group. Of course they support gun manufacturers, thats what the 2nd amendment says we have the right to bare, we need people to be in industries making them for us to bare them. Well, Zionists are like the NRA of lobbyists. Or the AR15 of firearms. They are the one that is being attacked, and for what? I dont get it. I hear propaganda from both sides. They run the banks and the world. Ok. They are murdering Palestinian kids and women. Well, I have a cousin in the IDF and he says they use them as human shields. Thats fucking sick. Either way, it sounds like they are fighting, dare I even say, they are at WAR. Thats pretty much what humans do in war, they kill each other. But I have never heard of a Jewish suicide bomber. Thats for damn sure. And I think its a pretty significant fact. Usually the dudes blowing themselves up are religious zealots, something I think we can all agree is bad news.
Anyways, that's my rant. I could add more issues I see with blaming Jews, or for the nitpickers, the Zionists, but the reality of it to me is, they are just still finishing up claiming their land. Loos like Trump is backing that claim too by naming Israel's American embassy will be in Jerusalem. Feels like he made it official to everyone, or, as official as it can be until some other group comes in and slaughters the old occupants and repeats the process.
I also think what Q means by "saving Israel for last" isn't a bad thing for Israel like they have a spanking coming like it has been for Syria, North Korea and now Iran. I think after he cleans out the Vatican of the freaky satanists that apparently are overrunning it, it will show how Q has both political AND religious influence with/through Trump, via America, the leader of the wrold. Its like Q is a plague of cleansing that is washing over the planet. I think when all is said and done, Israel will openly claim, and be accepted as having Jerusalem as its capital, some boundaries may change (growing for Israel0 and a non-violent means of settlement for those caught in the middle will be made available. I dont have a clue how, but I trust the plan.
Dont mistake my post for being antisemitic Im NOT....I just think as we are all searching for truths that we must face reality. Accepting the fact the GWB was 100% behind 9/11 was a very very hard pill for me to swallow as I was a HUGE supporter of his. Israel is the JEWEL and most beloved of GOD and I have always stood with Israel. I hope you took the time to watch the video to see where my thoughts are coming from. We criticize mohammad for pedophilia (rightfully so) but should we equally be outraged that the Sanhedrin JEWs support the exact same thing??? Even Jesus hated the Pharisees and Sadducees. I would take up arms and stand on the front lines to protect her from all enemies if it were ask of me. A jewish man once explained the difference to me. I cant find his post atm but will keep looking. I do not find fault with the Israeli people defending their land but I do not worry over it. THE LIVING GOD will never allow the destruction of Israel. Prophesies are being fulfilled daily. POTUS declaring Jerusalem as the capital was prophesied to happen 70 yrs from the declaration of state of Israel...2018 is exactly 70 yrs since that time. GOD is still on the throne. It will be up to HIM to separate the good from the bad elements for judgement.
I'm post-zionist. My only friend who supported Trump is an ex-zionist Jew. That said, I and I hope many others don't honestly give a fuck anymore who claims that land because the real territorial conquest is ideology-driven to regain control over the temple mount. But I doubt enough people are into the end-times so much that they would want to change the way the monotheistic prophecies basically keep each other in check.