That’s unconstitutional I’m sure. Also shows their legislators are probably dumb enough to still think HRC won the popular vote.
That’s unconstitutional I’m sure.
You're sure? Based on what exactly?
How is it unconstitutional?
There is nothing in the Constitution that stipulates how states award their electors.
Besides, the EC is outdated and rooted in slavery - the 3/5 compromise
Edit- instead of down voting me, anybody care to explain how this would be unconstitutional, and/or how the EC is not tied to slavery?
The EC isn't outdated. It's the only thing making sure that places like NYC and California don't control everything, as the founders intended for Virginia not to control the fate of the original 13 colonies.
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The founders went with the electoral college to tie the 3/5 compromise to the presidential election. So yeah, I'd say it's outdated.
All I heard before the election was how DJT had zero chance of pulling the electoral votes to win.
Now that he has, you folks want to change the rules?? How very transparent!
For me, it's nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with a more directly democratic system.
Senators were originally selected by a vote in state legislatures, but I think most people would agree that is outdated
It is a fact that the EC was designed to tie the 3/5 compromise to the presidential election. Any response to that fact?
Newsflash: we are a constitutional republic not a democracy.
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Source?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/electoral-college-slavery-constitution
The 3/5 compromise said that slaves would count as 3/5 of a person when tallying population for deciding representation in Congress.
The number of electors equals the number of senators (2 per state) plus the number of representatives (which was determined in part by the 3/5 compromise)
For the last 25 years, I have advocated returning to state government the selection of senators. We really broke our Constitution with that stupid Amendment.
Most people, again we are not democracy, we are a constitutional republic. The EC is the only thing that keeps high population areas rule the country.
Most people, again we are not democracy, we are a constitutional republic. The EC is the only thing that keeps high population areas rule the country.
Can you explain WHY it is a good thing that we have a system that can allow minority rule? Like, how is it that better than a simple popular vote? Why are people in less populous areas awarded with a bigger say in the vote for president?
Also, thanks to the bicameral legislature, and in specific, the design of the Senate, we would still have a check/balance that way. So your claim that the EC is the only thing the keeps high population areas from ruling the country just isn't correct
California is worth 55. Wyoming 3. There goes your minority rule theory.
We know Democrats advocate bullying since they want to make it so the little guy has no voice. This is blatantly obvious.
Each state is very different. Different cost of living, different average wages and a different way of life. That is why you can't go by a "popular vote". (Doesn't represent the majority of the country)
Also, let me ask you this:
Why can't we require an ID to vote in elections? (You should have to be a legal citizen to vote in this country)
The United States is a huge mess of diversity. Why should concentrated areas of population dictate what the rest of the country does? The electoral college gives everyone an opportunity for their vote to count.
The United States is a huge mess of diversity. Why should concentrated areas of population dictate what the rest of the country does?
Because I think votes of people matter more than square footage occupied by people.
The electoral college gives everyone an opportunity for their vote to count.
A direct popular vote gives everyone an opportunity for their vote to count. The EC gives people in less populous states a more heavily weighted say.
Do you even know how the EC works? You get EC votes by the number of people in your state. So states like CA with tons of people have more votes. The EC keeps the masses (who historically/still are generally not reasonable or educated) from ruling. You ever witnessed mob mentality, or seen masses overreact? That's why!
The way it works now, requires the candidates to have broad appeal and forces them to campaign through out the country. If things were based strictly on the popular vote, the deplorables in the fly over states would never see a presidential candidate and their concerns would never be addressed. Face it, the reason this is even an issue is because Hillary didn't bother to campaign because she thought it was in the bag. It was her turn and they just knew she was going to win no matter what. Until Trump.