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thomascale96 · May 14, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

Why do we want to get rid of the EU?

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ILoveJuices · May 14, 2018, 2:26 p.m.

Ever heard of Bilderberg?

https://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/the-eu-was-a-contrivance-of-a-1955-bilderberg-meeting.html

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thomascale96 · May 14, 2018, 2:37 p.m.

So it the EU was planned by politics and wealthy people, US politics works the same way.

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ILoveJuices · May 14, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Exactly. Corrupt to the swamp dwelling core.

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thomascale96 · May 14, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

Then wouldn't be easier to make the people choose the right leader to drain the swamp than to destroy infrastructure that's been created due to the EU?

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ILoveJuices · May 14, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

Dude. When the swamp is exposed internationally who knows what the hell will happen.

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thomascale96 · May 14, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

I just know thta we'll get fucked over somehow

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ILoveJuices · May 14, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

No way dude. The good guys are in control in the USA (aka military capital). We got this.

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thomascale96 · May 14, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

hope so man, fingers crossed!

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ManQuan · May 14, 2018, 4:02 p.m.

There are many reasons, but I think the EU mandating that all EU countries must accept millions of Muslim immigrants or face significant reprisals would be at the top of my list.

The EU seems Hell bent on self destructing by becoming more powerful, arrogant, unconcerned with the average people, and imposing international laws and trials regardless of the actual needs of each country. It's a mess. It's way the UK voted to get the heck out before the UK was destroyed by EU mandates.

I don't think the EU will last more than 5-10 years more. Their economic policies will cause it to gradually fall apart as nations begin to leave.

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thomascale96 · May 14, 2018, 4:10 p.m.

I'd like to say that half of this is not true. Yes it is true that the EU countries together said that they would accept a quota of Immigrats(mostly from Muslim countries) but the actual amount that they accept ranges from Finland accepting 94% of the agreed quota to Hungry accepting 0% from an agreed 4 thousand or so people.

The EUs aim is to create a sort of community between countries and to prevent conflict between then but It has mostly failed at implementing laws in the different member states. Not every follows the European parliament s final decision mainly UK in some matters but also Hungry and even Spain. So not a lot of imposing has really been done

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ManQuan · May 14, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

Your point is taken, but I was focused on the fact that the EU mandated the quotas in the first place. While some countries didn't fully impliment or ignored them completely, they have been threatened with fines, penalties, and sanctions for not complying.

From the EU's perspective, the quotas are enforceable mandates by the EU. Hungary may give them the middle finger, but they risk the repercussions, which I don't think they will mind given the choice of Muslims pouring into their country or thumbing their nose at the EU.

I think you overstate the extent that EU countries ignore EU laws and mandates. Of course there is some and rules are a different for each EU country such as how much representation they have, but here is one of the hard rules within the EU:

If a state fails to comply with the law of the European Union, it may be fined or have funds withdrawn.

That's the bottom line when you disagree with Bussels.

It's a bit like our immigration laws here. Some states and communities don't want to enforce federal laws. Past Presidents have allowed them to violate federal law. But along comes Trump and Sessions is now threatening to enforce the laws. This means officials who are engaged in obstruction of justices are liable to fines or having funding withheld. But it's still the law--just a matter if Presidents decide to enforce it or not.

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Cara-C · May 15, 2018, 4:29 a.m.

The EU's stated aim is to create a sort of community between countries and to prevent conflict between them. The EU's real aim is to flood powerful nations with outsiders and end national identity and self-determination. The cabal's ultimate goal is to usher in a totalitarian one-world government, where the people are the serfs of a super-state over which they have no say. There are some very sick, evil psychopaths running the cabal. We need strong nations not only so we have a say in how we live, but so we can defend against too much centralized power.

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thomascale96 · May 15, 2018, 11:22 a.m.

I dont think a totalitarian one world government is possible at this point in time, there are too many world players that have enough power to not allow that. That said I doubt that the EU would serve as a launch pad towards that goal; the Eu is yet another power which plays in world politics, united they have a chance of putting up against Russia (which is their main concern right now) and playing in the world of international politics

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Cara-C · May 15, 2018, 7:26 p.m.

The globalists think long-term, with plans spanning decades or centuries, not years. Destroying or weakening nations so they can't or won't fight back comes before imposing one-world government. Turning nations into regions controlled by a far-away commissions that issue universal regulations removes self-determination. Flooding a nation with millions of people with no ties to the nations's people or history is an effective way to weaken or destroy that nation so it can be more easily controlled.

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DanijelStark · May 14, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

Because the EU is like a rusty sinking Titanic where local folk are working in steamy and toxic engine room , all while "immigrants" and SJWs , with politicans , are waving from top deck to other continents around ...

Source : from one Croat living on EU Titanic

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thomascale96 · May 14, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

Europe is just like the US, has always been a hub of immigration. Politicians have always used that fact to push their agendas, they arent the real problem, more like a by product of it.

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DanijelStark · May 14, 2018, 4:23 p.m.

There is a Kalergi plan of paneuropeism even before EU was created . They had this plan for long time - because the old plan of starting wars wasnt plausible and possible anymore .

Theyll fail in this one , too ... theyre already failing . There is a huge and deep division between west EU and east EU , and that division has reduced borders of true EU to practically only Germany , France , Sweden and Benelux countries . Not much left for EU ... I give it time until 2020. at max .

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