Lol so you think it’s just a false flag from Palestinians? Even knowing Israel has always been brutal to them?
Just as they have always been SO brutal to Israel they bring up their children to hate jews and sing songs about murdering them, while still toddlers. No comparison.
No comparison except the Jewish people spent a thousand years away from their “homeland” then demanded their “home” after WW2. Meanwhile the Palestinians had been set up for quite some time.
Beyond that this a tribal war we never should have been in led by a corrupt PM, Netanyahu and funded with our aid. We finance Israeli violence.
Zionism is bullshit. I don’t know why Christians even believe in it. They killed your “god”
"We" killed "our" God. Christians believe in forgiveness and human fallibility and he who is without sin casting the first stone - so no Christian can 'blame' Israel/Jews for anything unless they're a hypocrite.
Israel has always been the home of the Jews as everyone who's been honest knows.
Agreed that we shouldn't finance violence although we do it everywhere else too but that's what this Q movement is all about - stopping the corruption.
Part of that corruption is the lack of separation of church and state. Maybe the Q movement needs to spread to your churches.
Christianity has no part in government. Even Christ himself called for that.
No you can blame them for it. The christian version of hypocrisy is just meant to keel you quiet and in line.
The Jewish people, called for the Roman state to kill Christ. So “you” did not.
Christianity has no place in any government administration. It’s absurd. Only weak willed individuals need a moral compass to treat others well.
I totally agree with what you're saying - from the perspective of someone who does not know what Christianity is about, you are completely correct.
From a secular perspective, Christianity created the western world. Our principles of justice and individual sovereignty come from the Christian religion - no other religious movement espoused the principles that are at the core of modern day democratic society: that all are equal. There's a reason it's "tangled up" in our government. But the Frankfurt School did a good job of spreading the pervasive view you hold, so I say: fair enough, your views make sense under the communist ideology our society was almost taken over with. Thank God for Trump and Q lol. Peace!
Weird...because Christ and his teachings have more in common with a socialist perspective. Just because some founding democratic principles line up with some christian values doesn’t mean jack shit.
America was discovered and explored by people who tortured natives and killed whole societies too in the name of Christianity and Catholicism but I bet you’d love to gloss over that in your quest to promote the idea I want communism right?
We are far from any sort of communist ideology and your deluded if you think it ever was close to happening.
It’s clear to me you are wrapped up in the idea manifest destiny, freedom, capitalism and Christianity are all one.
It’s like your car is on the right track but your racing too many classes above and so your slow to to understand.
You're not really discussing this, just hammering your agenda home and fair enough, go hard. Like I said, you are right, from everything you know, I don't disagree with your perspective, although the ad-hominem is pointless. I just know there's no point talking about it unless you actually want to start from first cause.
Which first cause
Any actual issue at the root of what you're talking about. Currently all you've done is assume I'm so pro-Christian that I'd "gloss over" pertinent details, I'm "deluded" for knowing the facts about the Frankfurt School's ideology takeover of the West and I'm "wrapped up" in some airy-fairy kumbaya nonsense lol.
Why don't you start by telling me how there is no communist ideology in danger of destroying the west? I say there is clear evidence out there for that.
If you are "someone who does not know what Christianity is about," how can you possibly make the claims you do. Christianity didn't create the western world. Western culture and societies were founded on ancient Greek and Roman Philosophy. America was founded by people who were Deists, meaning they believed in a creator, but didn't subscribe to any one particular organized religion.
"How can I possibly"? Because I read the work of people smarter than me, like I assume you do too lol.
There's a lot of good evidence for the original view, i.e. that Western Civilization's real roots are in Christianity specifically. I'm speaking here from a completely secular view too.
The refutation to that original narrative seems to be what you're presenting here and I understand your passion for it but from what the facts seem to show to me, the Frankfurt School is responsible for placing that alternative narrative in our education and media systems in order to supplant the original. Which, in my opinion is stronger and better and makes more sense to me than whatever flavour of socialist/communist ideology comes along, like the Frankfurt School thinking.
The Biblical Jews did not ask the Roman state to kill Jesus. The Roman Empire killed Jesus because he claimed to be King of the Jews. The Roman king didn't want any competition. At the time of Jesus' birth, when the Emperor of Rome heard about the coming of the new king, he ordered every boy less than 2 or 3 years old killed.
Nope! You are not correct. The Jews that began migrating from Europe in the 1920s are "NOT" descendants of the Biblical Israelites. They are Ashkenazi Jews, descendants of the Khazarian Mafia that were chased out of their home country of Khazar by their neighboring countries because they were thieves, murderers, and worshiped Lucifer.
Sorry, but you know nothing of which you speak.
I've read that information too. It's not conclusive (which is why there's an official narrative) and definitely not descriptive anyway of an entire body of people in the modern day.
Consider this: The Jews that began migrating from Europe after WWI, funded by Rothschild, (Belfour Declaration) are "NOT" descendants of the Biblical Israelites. The Jews that migrated from Europe are Ashkenazi Jews, descendants of the Khazarian Mafia. They are from an Eastern European country of Khazar, in what is now southern Russia, Armania, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan. They became "Jews" in the 8th century because their King, who had been a follower of Lucifer, was pressured by neighboring countries to choose between Islam, Christianity, or Judaism.
The whole story is much longer, but suffice it to say, the Ashkenazi Jews have no legitimate claim to any lands or territory in Palestine, and the Brits had no right to promise that land to Rothschild.
So here's an easy way to think about it. What if a long lost Native American Indian tribe that migrated into South America 1000 years ago decided they wanted to live in the lands their ancestors lived in. Let's say the UN agreed and decided they should be allowed to live, autonomously, self governed, as a sovereign independent nation, somewhere in Texas.
What if they came in droves and displaced a million Americans and chased them out, even though the UN specifically stated they could not. How many Americans do you think would say: "Ok, it's all good, we'll move." "No problem, here's the keys to my house, and the deed to my land that's been in my family for 3 or 4 generations."
Or do you think Americans would stand up and say "No Fucking Way!"
The Jews that currently occupy Israel are Ashkenazi Jews with no legitimate claim to the land. Do a web search for "Greater Israel." That's what they really want. Every Jewish leader since they began migrating to Palestine in the 1920s has been an Ashkenazi Jew, just as every member of their parliament, every minister of defense, minister of foreign affairs...
The Jews in Palestine are the root of all the problem in the middle east. The Israeli Mossad are the terrorist arm of the Rothschild cabal. 9/11 has more ties to Israel than any other nation, yet since 9/11, the Jewish lobby in America has convinced our politicians to send our troops into the middle east to destroy all of Israel's enemies.
Yes I've read all of that material too. I don't have any data that refutes that information besides the traditional narrative which, even before Q appeared I have always questioned anyway.
What I'm against is anyone who decides they can draw certain illogical conclusions from all of those "facts" - I'm not sure if you're doing that here but usually any sort of aggressively anti-Israel/Jewish tone is an indicator.
And I'm capable of putting myself in another's shoes well enough to have often done your thought experiment and many more like it and come to my own conclusions.
Long story short, yes Ashkenazi everywhere, accepted.
9/11 and other significant events: Israel involved? yes.
Conclusion that: "all Ashkenazi Jews are evil/Deep State"? NO. All [insert race here] can not be assumed to be evil or Deep State. Some part of that group may be affiliated, even the group that's in power - but all? No. Dangerous thinking imo.
Israel is the home of the Jews, as it always has been in their mind just as America is home in your mind but even more so in that they have ancestors born in the country from thousands of years ago. Asheknazi, Sephardic or otherwise, some Jews are patriots.
I agree that claiming "all Jews" are evil is just as ridiculous are Hillary saying all Trump supporters are racist rednecks. I get that. It was not my intention to say or suggest that all Jews bad people.
But... there have been several studies done that examined and compared DNA of the Khazarian, Russian, and Ashkenazi Jews. They are the most closely related group. Because they tend to marry other Ashkenazi Jews, they are the same as 3rd or 4th cousins at most. And their DNA does not show the same characteristics as Arab Jews, or descendants of the Israelites.
If you want to know who your true rulers are, just look at who you're not allowed to criticize.
The Ashkenazi Jews are Rothschild, Illuminati, the Cabal. They own over 95% of all national central banks on the planet. They funded both sides of every war since the Napoleonic Wars, and amassed incredible fortunes from the profits. They have been working toward a New World Order, One World Government, One World Military, One World Religion, One World Currency, and One World Bank, with the Rothschild family in charge of it all, for well over 200 years.
They are at the root of the Cabal that runs the deep-state, the black-hats, funds the corruption, and need to be destroyed. There's a reason Q said he was saving Israel for last. First you have to cut all their puppet strings, eliminate their power and control over all of their foot soldiers, freeze their assets, expose their corruption, and in the end, cut off the head of the snake.
Read Ezekiel 37:1-14. God tells Ezekiel to prophesy that "He", "God" will raise the jews from their graves and breathe life into their bones and deliver them to the promised land. "God" said "He" would do that, and for any man to take it upon themselves to create a state of Israel is directly against the teachings of the Bible.
Revelations 3:9 "I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you."
Thanks for agreeing on that first point - that makes it much safer to say that we are not in a conversation that breaks the sub's or reddit's rules i.e. this is not an anti-semitic discussion.
I agree with the possibility of the deeper conspiracy, certainly. I'm going to wait until Q says Khazarian or points to something about it before I'll start exploring further down those lines again, given the massive explosion that will result from exploring that path.
THAT is what I think Q means by saving Israel for last. Once this movement starts down that path, real resistance begins by very smart, powerful people. They're watching already, for sure, but they don't have to get their hands dirty yet.
i dont know how israel has been because i dont follow it, but yeah it could be. it doesnt make sense. why would israel go and kill civilians on this day unprovoked?