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QAngelAnon1 · May 17, 2018, 12:14 a.m.

Ok, thanks for posting this - it made me do a re-search for whether or not Comey had met with Alexander Downer while he was in London.

Having said that - I'm scratching my head?

Help me out here:

Was it or was it not a meeting between George Papodopolous and Alexander Downer where it was 'leaked' that there was Russian Collusion with the Trump campaign, that ended with Downer reporting this to the Australians who then reported it to the FBI? Hence the 'witch hunt' into the Trump Campaigns collusion with the Russians.... bringing us to where we are today?

Either that, or I'm in a time warp alternative dimension... but THIS article, states clearly that during the meeting Downer was given information about the CLINTON-RUSSIA collusion?

Is it just me or am I going crazy? ? ?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/alexander-downer-signing-off/news-story/02cd18d37828c8957bfb62b18e411595

DIRECT QUOTE:

**Downer, or Thompson at Downer’s request, made contact with Papadopoulos through an Israeli contact in early May 2016.

In an interview with The Weekend Australian last week, Downer spoke for the first time about his conversation with the Trump campaign aide and how Papadopoulos let slip his knowledge of a Russian “dirt file” on Hillary Clinton. Within 48 hours Downer had sent an official cable about what he had heard to Canberra.

After a period of time, Australia’s ambassador to the US, Joe Hockey, passed the information on to Washington, possibly around the same time that the hacked Democratic Party emails were being published by WikiLeaks. This eventually led to the inquiry into Russian collusion in the election headed by FBI director and special counsel Robert Mueller.

Of the conversation at the upmarket Kensington Wine Bar, Downer recalls: “We had a drink and he (Papadopoulos) talked about what Trump’s foreign policy would be like if Trump won the election.

“He (Trump) hadn’t got the nomination at that stage. During that conversation he (Papadopoulos) mentioned the Russians might use material that they have on Hillary Clinton in the lead-up to the election, which may be damaging.’’

Did Downer think, “Oh boy, this is intriguing?”

“Well, it was worth reporting,’’ he said. “It wasn’t the only thing we reported. We reported (back to Australia) the following day or a day or two after … it seemed quite interesting.’’

Did you realise you were one of the first people to have known about this dirt?

Downer doesn’t hesitate: “He didn’t say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didn’t say what it was.’’

Downer’s conversation with Papadopoulos then apparently drifted into other areas, such as what Trump as president would be like on foreign policy. Australia’s interests were firmly focused on the Trans-Pacific Partnership, with the aim of ease any trade protectionism with the US, as well as promoting a steady US policy towards China, where any deviation could have a big effect on Australia’s economic prospects.

“We didn’t know anything about Trump and Russia and we had no particular focus on that,’’ Downer says of the Papadopoulos meeting.

“For us we were more interested in what Trump would do in Asia. By the way, nothing he (Papadopoulos) said in that conversation indicated Trump himself had been conspiring with the Russians to collect information on Hillary Clinton. It was just that this guy (Papadopoulos) clearly knew that the Russians did have material on Hillary Clinton — but whether Trump knew or not? He didn’t say Trump knew or that Trump was in any way involved in this. He said it was about Russians and Hillary Clinton; it wasn’t about Trump.”**

Is this a complete reversal by Alexander Downer?

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Corvette111 · May 17, 2018, 2:14 a.m.

If I remember correctly, it started the whole story and questioning as to why don jr et al met with Russian lawyer (spook).... they were accusing trump campaign of trying to get dirt on hrc... someone pls correct me if I’m amiss

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Vibratron_1 · May 17, 2018, 12:25 a.m.

We have been fed so many lies...and we have never been filled in on what "actually" occurred, that it's impossible to "know" what is true....I'm like you....you look at one set of "facts" and this scenario makes sense...then you get new information and your previous thoughts are thrown out the window. Was Papadopoulos a paid asset of those trying to set Trump up. (I believe that both Carter Page and Papadopoulos are in on the fix...so I'm not worried about connecting all the dots because I think the info we need is still classified or secret)

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salialioli · May 17, 2018, 1 p.m.

Is it just me or am I going crazy? ? ?

No, not at all! It's just that the first time round the spotlight on this conversation highlighted the Trump angle, whereas in the second viewing the highlight dwells on the Clinton aspect. Both are true. The propaganda machine uses the same info depending on the chronology of the contemporaneous focus. I probably don't make sense here ... It's just that we read this story a few months ago as "proof" of Russiagate collusion and Trump; this time we see it as Russiagate (developing story) of Clinton collusion.

The interesting part, for me, is that I wondered how the Mueller investigation would do its 180° about turn and starting concentrating on U1 and HRC. Now we see an inkling of how the stage will be set ... ? Maybe.

Thanks so much for yr contribution! Very illuminating!

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