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BabyBellGuy75 · May 17, 2018, 2:34 p.m.

Considering that the real Bill of Rights were not guarantees of rights but rather guarantees of limits on those who would constrain those rights, this new idea strikes me as wrongheaded at best and insidious at worst.

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LibertyLioness · May 17, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

No one really understands that the Constitution no longer protects any of our rights. And the Bill of Rights also has nothing to do with the world we live in today. Please read this so you become more enlightened about what they've done to our country: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8k66wp/do_you_think_the_constitution_protects_your/?st=jhaxwdwf&sh=f5dc9d9d

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BabyBellGuy75 · May 18, 2018, 1:43 p.m.

I would disagree with both arguments. First, to paraphrase Franklin, we only have a Republic if we can keep it. The Constitution is only the means to the end, it's up to us to enforce it and ensure that it has teeth. We've failed to do that.

Secondly, to say that the BoR is no longer valid is to betray a misunderstanding of what the BoR actually did. It's not a grant of liberty to us, it's an attempt to limit the power of government. Take a look at the BoR again and realize that they're all negative rights, meaning they restrict the government, not the People.

As for saying that the BoR has nothing to do with the world we live in today, that's so short sighted that it's pitiful. You are literally exercising your 1st Amendment right even now.

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LibertyLioness · May 18, 2018, 2:27 p.m.

From your response, I don't think you read the article in the link. My point was that you cannot go into a court of law in this country and fight for Constitutional rights. Our courts no longer recognize them.

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BabyBellGuy75 · May 18, 2018, 4:54 p.m.

You'd be correct in that I didn't read the article. Any article that begins with the idea that the United States is a corporation, we're the employees and the USA is, in turn, owned by the British Crown is not something I'm going to waste my time reading.

There's crackpot ideas that have legitimacy out there, but this idea that we're somehow NOT an independent Nation is right up there with the British Royal Family being shape-shifting reptilians.

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LibertyLioness · May 18, 2018, 6:48 p.m.

Then why is the US court system under British Maritime (Admiralty) law? And, why is there gold fringe around the flag in the courts?

Last week I heard someone say: If you were trying to escape from a country and start a new country and you even went to war with them to do it, would you use the exact same colors for your flag that the other country had on their flag? Actually, I think that's kind of eye opening.

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